On 12/20/2010 8:58 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> There is a company that makes a little box to address this very need -
> interfacing pro audio with a consumer audio input. The company is
> Beachtek. Of course, the video camera must have a mic input of some
> flavor in order for any solution to work as described in this thread.
> joe salerno
I do carry a bag or two of patch cords and adapters on the lines of what
Joe and Dan describe, and I wish affordable cameras had both line and
mic ins, but if I can have only one it must be a mic in because most of
the times I am using mics and would need an active powered pre-amp if
all there was was a line in. These days it is almost impossible to find
a camera under a thousand dollars with even the mic in. And since I
generally have four cameras, two for me and two for my daughter, the
added pre-amps add to expense and weight.
I've been videotaping the ARSC, IASA, and some OTR conferences since
1985, and while some presentations are just talking head, and sometimes
the powerpoints are the unnecessary bullet-point redundancies of what
they are saying, many talks are illustrated with photos, record labels,
graphs and diagrams, some of which are important elements of the
presentation which the association's audio recordings cannot convey. My
videos have become the scrapbook of the history of the organizations'
founders and early members. And when we have celebrities, it can be
great. Just watched a few weeks ago part of the panel we had at ARSC in
1986 with Rise Stevens, Robert Merrill, and Anna Moffo. Seeing the
interplay between these old friends raised it far above the level of a
Met Opera radio intermission feature. Julian Morton Moses' talk is also
on that tape. I posted a small segment of Keith Hardwick of EMI and
Gerald Plano of RCA Special Products answering my question about
"accidental stereo" and it is rather enlightening to see how embarassed
Plano is at Hardwick's answer because he had given his producers the go
ahead to examine possibilities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr4x1V4OJY (Audio is from the PA feed.)
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> On 12/20/2010 12:03 AM, Dan Nelson wrote:
>> I have to agree with M Biel...... im hired to provide "sound
>> coverage" for an
>> event and in my book that includes a sub feed to what ever the event
>> Hes paying my fee so Ill kiss his xxx and hell have me at the top of
>> his list
>> for the next event.
>> As to the mini-plug mic in....... i found easy solution. I made up
>> an XLR
>> single ended cord about 10' long with male RCA on the opposite end. I
>> have 3
>> RCA/RCA (10K imp) loss pad of 20, 40, 60 db. Another 10' cord RCA to
>> mini male.
>> Bring on your camera/cd recorder what ever and youll get a feed as
>> good as the
>> audience and im a genious in the sponsors eyes.
>> ca ching ca ching $$$$ ohh yah
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Michael Biel<[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 8:22:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] In the category of if you want it done right,
>> do it
>> yourself ...
>> On 12/19/2010 4:21 PM, Lou Judson wrote:
>>> As a live sound mixer who is often called pon to provide a sound
>>> feed to
>>> performers' cameras, any cmera with no LINE level input is a toy to
>>> me. I refuse
>>> to carry the extra gear it would take to send mic level to a video -
>>> if they
>>> don't bring professional gear just use your own mic!
>> Almost every piece of pro mixing equipment I have used in the past 50
>> years had
>> a mic level out. That's usually a sign of it being a pro mixer. If
>> a camera
>> only has a line level in, it is the cameraman who would need the
>> extra gear to
>> preamp a mic up to line level. That's the problem with most
>> stand-alone video
>> recorders -- they only have line ins.
>>> A mic level input on a minijack is a poor source to use in my opinion.
>> Granted, but we are talking about affordability and portability --
>> the latter
>> becoming more and more important with baggage restrictions. If we
>> are talking
>> about reference recordings, not commercial recordings, there is no
>> need to go
>> overboard, but at least the attempt to get a good sound source is
>> The example you give of a two camera shoot is already beyond the
>> simple need for
>> a reference recording at conferences.
>>> But then, I have no desire to see talking heads at a conference
>>> anywa, even
>>> less poerpoint, all I need is a good speaker talking intelligently!
>> Why are you interested in a good speaker talking intelligently if you
>> are not
>> interested in talking heads at a conference?????
>>> But that is taste maybe.
>> If you are hired to do a job, I don't give a diddlydamn for what your
>> taste is,
>> only your agreeability with those you are working for.
>> Mike Biel [log in to unmask]