You may or may not remember , but you and I have gone down this road
before a few years back when I was reminiscing on this list about my
mis-spent youth, most specifically my discovery of Radio City Music
Store while I was a student at Hempstead HS in the mid-1960s and my
dealings with Swede (no other name that I ever was aware of) who kept
it's small confines well stocked with the good stuff.
Later, following my Long Island years, I moved westward to the Isle of
Manhattan. I did find time to mis-spend my post-youth at places like
Discophile (with Franz overseeing the operation), Bremen House (Franz,
again) and 8th Avenue Records (kind of a cutout and overstock dump
presided over by Fred Draisner, who always had a reel-to-reel playing
Met opera broadcast tapes, it seemed). Somewhat later, I did manage to
dig through huge piles (mounds, more like it) of 78s at some place over
on 4th Avenue that I don't recall having a name and scoring some pretty
incredible stuff for peanuts. Somewhat later still, I added Jay's Music
Hunter on 5th Ave to my haunts and Sam Goody was always good if you read
the Sunday paper to see what labels were on sale for the week. Now that
I am scouring my memory, I realize that I shouldn't omit mentioning
Patelson's Music Store's record department. It was pretty tiny, but was
almost all well selected imports. My interest was and is pretty strong
in the area of the instrument I play, French horn, and there always
seemed to be a resident horn player on staff at Patelson's that kept an
eye out for sheet music and records in that narrow niche.
Those were the days that I really had next to no money, but always
seemed to find a way to rationalize purchasing that disc that I knew I
would kill myself later for having passed up the opportunity to take it
home with me.
Gee, just think, now I could just stay home and Google what I want and
download it all and load it onto my personal digital listening device.
Think of all the time and effort I would have saved myself and all the
empty space I'd have in my apartment in place of of record shelving
(sarcasm completely intentional).
Just an old-ish fart with fond recollections,
12/5/2010 3:05 PM, Don Chichester wrote:
> FWIW, I used to work for Radio City Music Store which had stores in Times
> Square and Hempstead. i worked at the LI store in the early '50s. I don't
> know who owned the chain.
> Don Chichester
> In a message dated 12/5/2010 2:36:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> Hi Michael,
> I am still friendly with a couple of dealers from the old days that are "
> still with us. "
> Maybe I can get them to a dinner in Manhattan to talk about those times if
> you wish to host such an event.
> ALSO, a former store manager of my World of Music store relocated to Las
> Vegas many years ago and opened a record collectible store. His name is
> Richard Rosen& his store became& still is quite successful. You may wish
> to contact Richard as well, as he has many deal buddies from the old days.
> Here is his store's link: http://www.waxtraxrecords.com/index.php
> Good luck with your project.
> Your search for sound& video ends here!
> Jay Sonin, General Manager
> Music Hunter Distributing Company
> 25-58 34th Street, Suite # 2
> Astoria, NY 11103-4902
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Biel"<[log in to unmask]>
> To:<[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record Hunter - Remington Records
> From: Music Hunter<[log in to unmask]>
>> Hi Thomas, I remember Remmington as a low budget priced label
>> that we sold for a dollar or two. I really don't remember much
>> else about them. as you know, this was many years ago.
> Remington was "A Don Gabor Production" as was proclaimed on each album.
> Some of the covers were done by Alex Steinweiss, adding a bit of class
> to a budget label. The price of the record was built into the catalog
> number, and I think the lowest series was 199, and there was also a 299,
> perhaps even a 399 series. They probably ended up being GREATLY
> discounted!! Most of the recordings were European, some licensed and
> some he actually recorded and produced himself. The Enesco conducted
> Rumanian Rhapsodies were on Remington. At the 1999 IASA in Vienna we
> had a presentation by a conductor who had made many of the early 50s
> recordings in Vienna for many of the labels. I asked him about Gabor
> and he did not have nice memories of him.
>> If my memory is correct, the Vox materials were all public domain
> There was a lot of info about George Mendelssohn in a Vox anniversary CD
> set a few years ago, and I doubt that more than a small few of the
> recordings on Vox were PD recordings -- at least the recordings
> themselves. As for the music, Haydn and Beethoven, etc. were PD, but
> Vox also released a lot of modern music. Pop stuff, too. Can't forget
> the George Feyer "Memories of . . ." series.
>> At The Record Hunter in those days, we carried every title in print on
>> every label just like Music Hunter does now. With so many labels,
>> it's hard to remember those details after so many years. Jay Sonin
> That was also Sam Goody's claim back in the early 50s. I never hit The
> Record Hunter until I was in high school around 1962, but that was after
> you were out of it (??) when it was only one store on 5th Ave. just
> north of 42nd St. Lots of fond memories there -- I can cite specific
> records I got there that were important to my collecting development.
> Things that were not at Goody's!! I don't remember the uptown and
> village locations of the RH I see in ads in the early 50s.
> I've been wanting to put together an ARSC presentation about NYC record
> stores, and I need to get together with you! We need to capture the
> golden age of the independent store in the 40s and 50s.
> Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Stern"<[log in to unmask]>
> To:<[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Record Hunter - Remington Records
>> Hello Jay Sonin,
>> I noticed your post on ARSCLIST re Boris Rose.
>> Wonder if you have any information about the relationship between Record
>> Hunter and
>> Remington - I remember buying many of their albums at the Record Hunter -
>> they seemed to be a
>> perpetual "sale" item.
>> I did an extensive Richard Dyer-Bennet discography a while ago, and there
>> is the unexplained
>> modification to his Remington album. After the initial release, two
>> tracks were deleted
>> on all subsequent Remington pressings (some still listed the songs on the
>> label even though they
>> were NOT on the LP), and not on the Continental reissues.
>> Do you have any knowledge of why this was done?
>> Also, some sources have theorized that the tracks on a VOX ep might have
>> come from the Remington session. They could also quite
>> easily be unissued masters from the Vox 78rpm recordings.
>> If you know anything related to these questions, or can direct me to
>> someone who does, it would be very
>> helpful to my researches.
>> Thank you.
>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 6:59 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Boris Rose Article NY edition of WSJ