Adam,

Different identity, so you can't use the fuller form of the other identity; I see the logic. The established Patman sounds like a pseudonym as well based on the citation, so the same logic would apply there as well, unless it is interpreted as a shorter form of the full name. If the Patman name becomes an undifferentiated record, the references from the real identities would be pretty confusing, no? The (Photographer) qualifier looks like RDA rules--enjoyed your webinar on RDA headings this afternoon. Gary Strawn contacted me off list and came to the same conclusion (about not qualifying the joint pseudonym). I shall think upon it.

Steven Arakawa 
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Subject: Re: Shared Pseudonym qualifier?

Steven,

I would say no, there's no such valid addition in $q that you could make 
to Patman.  I don't think you can treat both person's names as a fuller 
form of name of Patman.  However, perhaps you could add a qualifying term 
to break the conflict:

Patman $c (Photographer)

Although there are two real persons, the pseudonym is a separate identity 
representing one (pseudonymous) person, so I would use the qualifier in 
the singular.

That said, you could just modify the existing heading as well to break 
this conflict.

Adam

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Arakawa, Steven wrote:

> 
> I would like to establish the name Patman, a shared pseudonym of the photographers Patrick Aufauvre and Arnaud
> Baumann. The NAF has a record for an individual with a pseudonym that normalizes to Patman (no2006079656). It would
> be possible to break the conflict by adding a fuller form qualifier to the previously established Patman, but the
> preference is to use additions to the incoming name to break the conflict if additions are available.    From LCRI
> 22.7-22.20, 1st in order of preference would be the fuller form. I can?t recall ever seeing a fuller form qualifier
> for a shared pseudonym.  Would this be correct form?:  Patman $q (Patrick Aufauvre & Arnold Baumann) [both
> individuals are established separately in the NAF]. On the title page, the author is given as Patman; below it in
> parentheses & smaller type is (Patrick Aufauvre et Arnaud Baumann) with ?Pat? and ?man? highlighted.
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> thanks,
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> Steven Arakawa
> 
> Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation
> 
> Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University
> 
> P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 
> (203)432-8286 [log in to unmask]
> 
>  
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