I would really like to see this discography.
I recently found these two records at a flea market,from 1954.from the 4-Star label,of current country singles the label had put for radio stations out.These were 10" Lps that played at 33,but used a 78 needle.I had never seen these before,but found a couple are currently up on eBay for cheap.
--- On Mon, 3/28/11, Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Victor "Artists Party" DL 5 10" transcription
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Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 1:44 PM
On 3/28/2011 1:44 AM, Dan Nelson wrote:
> Victor DL 5, a program transcription by RCA.
> Ok help me put a note on this record, when and what ..
> I know its a 33 and visually looks like a fine groove... how fine ?
> When was it made and what was the purpose ?Many thanks dnelsonward
It's the demo record provided with every Victor, RCA, GE, and Westinghouse 2-speed radio-phono combination in 1931-32 to introduce the buyer to the Program Transcription series. It came in a two or three pocket soft-sided album with a printed explanation. The machines with the home-recording switch also got a blank pre-grooved recording disc in the album and there also was a regular Victor 78 included. .
There is a complete discography of the Program Transcription in back issues of the ARSC Journal by Ted Fagen in 13:1, 14:3 and 15:1. Page 32 of the first article shows this record as matrices LBRC-70138 and 39 on July 30, 1931.
Ted said that the groove size was the same as the 78s but were to be played with special chromium needles. I think that most agree that the groove size is narrower than the 78. Indeed, the L in the prefix indicates it. The grooving seems to be about 150 per inch which is different than if the letter was M was used which denoted a 33 recording with standard size groove for Vitaphone and broadcast transcriptions. Ted did not understand that, as he shows his confusion at the end of the introduction. (When the L grooving was used for broadcast transcriptions they could get a 15 minute side on 14-inch discs, but the M grooving was 15 minutes on a 16-inch disc. Later film soundtracks using the L grooving got 10 minutes on a 12 inch disc. He is confused about what he mentions as a film transfer, because these really used the letter F. When he wrote this he didn't have access to all the documents I later found.)
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]