In case the articles linked yesterday did not have the audio files, this
And as Sam and Uncle Dave mentioned me saying, the Barometer optical
glass disc recording had been played for ARSC in 1978, so not all of
them had remained unplayed publicly. It was at a session at the
Smithsonian American History Museum and it might have been in Richard
Bebb's talk which he did not allow to be recorded, but it might have
been in another talk that afternoon.
Mike [log in to unmask]
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Alexander Graham Bell recordings played from
From: Sam Brylawski <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, December 14, 2011 3:41 pm
To: [log in to unmask]
Patrick Feaster has been exploring recorded incunabula at the
and elsewhere for two years or more. The office of Carlene Stephens,
curator of the Smithsonian's earliest recordings, was recently awarded
Grammy Foundation grant to inventory their holdings. Perhaps her
application was prompted by Patrick's visits. In any case, here's an SI
post that includes audio samples.
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> No, wait a minute! They are all down there right now, working on that
> collection! The writer didn't mention them. Who else would be doing
> On another list, Dr. B. mentioned that at least the glass disc had
> played for an ARSC Conference of many moons ago. So this is not the
> time at least some of these things have been heard.
> I remember I posted a query to 78-L around 2001 asking specifically
> happened to the Bell and Tainter wax, and why we still considered the
> Crystal Palace recordings the oldest in the world if such artifacts
> around at all. I got a response from Allan Koenigsberg saying
> yes, they ARE around, but there is no safe way to recover the sound.
> also said he had at least one Bell & Tainter cylinder, but it was so
> dry and fragile he didn't dare try to play it with a conventional
> Dr. B did not mention the glass disc of "Barometer" at that time,
> remembers it now.
> Now that the sound on 1859-60 recordings of Scott de Martinville has
> recovered, some may say the point is academic as to what is the
> oldest recording. I say it's more complicated than that -- we ought
> what is the earliest recoverable playback we can have that was also
> back in its own time. For right now, the copper disc from 1881 seems
> that distinction, but we haven't tried to playback any historical
> nor the telegraph signals that Edison recorded on a machine held at
> Greenfield Village that holds square copper "discs." So all of this
> research is still very much pending; it is great to see what it
> David "Uncle Dave" Lewis
> Lebanon, OH
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Dick Spottswood <[log in to unmask]>
> > The writer is ignorant of (or chooses to ignore) David Giovannoni,
> > Feaster and others who recovered and reproduced Leon Scott's 1850s
> > recordings.
> > Dick
> > [ARSCLIST] Alexander Graham Bell recordings played from 1880s
> > Rob DeLand
> > to:
> > ARSCLIST
> > 12/14/2011 11:33 AM
> > Sent by:
> > Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <
> [log in to unmask]>
> > Please respond to Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > I don't recall this being discussed here - it's not clear to me
> > why
> > these discs were not playable - soft wax?
> > -Rob
> > WASHINGTON (AP) ? Alexander Graham Bell foresaw many things,
> > that
> > people could someday talk over a telephone. Yet the inventor
> > never could have anticipated that his audio-recording experiments
> > Washington, D.C., lab could be recovered 130 years later and played
> > gathering of scientists, curators and journalists.
> > "To be or not to be..." a man's voice can be heard saying in one
> > recordingas it was played on a computer at the Library
> > of Congress on Tuesday. The speaker from the 1880s recites a
> > Hamlet's Soliloquy as a green wax disc crackles to life from
> > speakers.
> > The early audio recordings ? which revealed recitations of
> > numbers and other familiar lines ? had been packed away and deemed
> > obsolete
> > at the Smithsonian Institution for more than a century. But new
> > has allowed them to be recovered and played.
> > The technology reads the sound from tiny grooves with light and a
> > camera. ...
> > Many of the recordings are fragile, and until recently it had not
> > possible to listen to them without damaging the discs or cylinders.
> > So far, the sounds of six discs have been successfully recovered
> > the process, which creates a high-resolution digital map of the
> > cylinder. The map is processed to remove scratches and skips, and
> > reproduces the audio content to create a standard digital sound