That's it. The interviewees are all well worth listening to. I believe
there was a bassoonist who fondly described the peculiar way that
Mahler had of walking that almost seemed if he were skipping. There
was plenty about his way with musicians that they recalled, possibly
somewhat altered by the passage of 50+ years. I wish I could recall
where I have the CD stashed. There is a good chance that it would be
somewhere on Sony, since I think it appeared since the disappearance
of Columbia, Columbia Classical, CBS or any such Columbia named
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> These were drawn from the late William Malloch's collection of interviews.
> I believe he was credited in the notes. It was in the Bernstein Mahler Box,
> an unwieldy design that was too high to be shelved with ordinary LPs.
> It's great listening. Alfred Freese (sp?), Mahler's percussionist,
> remembers his audition and sings the different ways the other auditioners
> played and the way he played the same passage, the way Mahler preferred-
> i.e., not mushy timpani but clearly articulated rhythm. There's lots
> more. It should be required listening when performance practice of this
> period is being investigated.
> Steve Smolian
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hirsch
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Hadley
> I have been following this discussion with interest.
> Unfortunately, I have little to contribute to the discussion regarding
> Hadley, other than to say that I also have listened to his compositions over
> the years with some modest pleasure.
> I am curious to know if the full contents of these recordings are listed in
> the James North NY Phil discography. I have several of the earliest
> recordings on super-thick Columbia 78s that Stransky did with the orchestra
> ca. 1916, I believe, and find them fascinating to listen to, despite the
> fact that the recorded sound, the content and the conducting strike me as
> marginal. These were recorded by a group that was drawn from Mahler's NY
> Phil and I know that a fair amount of these players were still in the
> orchestra when Hadley did his recordings.
> For that matter, there was a disc recorded in the 60s that I believe made it
> onto CD at some point that was included with some recording of Mahler on
> Columbia (Walter or Bernstein, I can't recall) where several players that
> weren't all that long retired reminisce about Gustav.
> Sorry if I ramble.
> Peter Hirsch
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Karl Miller <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reading the thread on the NY Phil Ginn Recordings...While I will agree
> with Don that Hadley was not a great interpreter, I find his work to be
> quite fine, even if it was not "inspired." He was a significant musician in
> the history of America Music and I believe his work should be considered of
> some value. Thanks to discographer Fred Fellars, I have transfers of
> recordings he made for Okeh and many of the Ginn discs. As many of you may
> know, there is also a surviving video of Hadley conducting the New York
>> Some of you will know of David Canfield. Dave's dad did his dissertation
> on Hadley. Worth reading and available online. Dave has also supplied me
> with several recordings of Hadley's music, as has conductor John McLaughlin
> Williams. John has made commercial recordings of the music of Hadley and has
> also given me copies of some of his concert performances of Hadley's music.
> During his lifetime, Hadley's music was performed by virtually every major
> symphonic organization in this country. But, as with so many composers like
> Piston, Creston, Whithorne, Kelley, etc, very little of the music has been
> performed since his death.
>> Just to say, he did make a substantive contribution to music...and I very
> much enjoy what I have heard of his compositions.