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Re: PCCLIST Digest - 2 Feb 2012 to 3 Feb 2012 (#2012-22)

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"Lasater, Mary Charles" <[log in to unmask]>

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Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]>

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I am also interested in this. The Tenn. Funnel will be meeting for our now annual update session this Spring.

Mary Charles Lasater

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whitsitt, Kathleen S
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] PCCLIST Digest - 2 Feb 2012 to 3 Feb 2012 (#2012-22)

Hello,

How will the funnel groups be affected or involved regarding the Day 1 Naco RDA authority training?

Kathleen Whitsitt
Authority Control Librarian
Lone Star College System
Automated Library Services
20515 State Hwy. 249
Bldg. 11, 4th Floor, Rm 11432
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LoneStar.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of PCCLIST automatic digest system
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 11:01 PM
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Subject: PCCLIST Digest - 2 Feb 2012 to 3 Feb 2012 (#2012-22)

There are 2 messages totalling 547 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

 1. PCC Task Groups At Work
 2. More about two concerns about RDA

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:52:05 +0000
From: "Barnhart, Linda" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: PCC Task Groups At Work

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I am pleased to announce the formation of several PCC RDA task groups. The= se groups report to the PCC Policy Committee; the full charge for each is p= osted on the PCC RDA web site at http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/RDA-PCC.html=
.

1) The RDA Policy Statements Task Group, which is a joint task group w=
ith the LC Policy & Standards Division. This group is charged to review th= e latest set of RDA Policy Statements and to make recommendations indicatin= g the extent to which use of a single set of RDA Policy Statements is agree= able. The group is chaired by Manon Theroux, and includes David Reser, Pau= l Frank, Linda Gabel, Ed Jones, Robert Maxwell, and Hugh Taylor.

2) The Task Group to Formulate or Recommend PCC/NACO RDA Policy on Aut=
hority Issues is charged to formulate or recommend PCC policy on the priori= tized NACO issues raised in the PCC RDA-Decisions Needed Task Group Final r= eport/spreadsheet, providing clear direction on each issue and noting any c= ontingencies in policy implementation. The group is chaired by Kathy Glenna= n, and includes Ben Abrahamse, Karen Detling, Joanna Dyla, Sara Shatford La= yne, George Prager, and Paul Frank.

3) The PCC Acceptable Headings Implementation Task Group is charged to=
implement the recommendations of the Task Group on AACR2 & RDA Acceptable = Heading Categories. The group is chaired by Gary Strawn, and includes Paul= Frank, Robert Bremer, Karen Anderson, Ana Lupe Cristan, and David Williams= on.

4) The Hybrid Integrating Resources Task Group is charged to produce a=
guide or cue sheet that will assist with the cataloging of integrating res= ources under RDA. The group is chaired by George Prager, and includes Rene= e Chin, Dale Swensen, Laura Ramsey, Les Hawkins, Margaretta Yarborough, Hol= ly Tomren, Lynne Branche Brown and Valerie Bross.

Several other task groups which report to PCC Standing Committees are also = underway, and the charges to these groups are posted on the Standing Commit= tee sites.

5) The RDA Provider-Neutral Model and Reproductions Task Group is char=
ged to examine the provider-neutral model under RDA and make recommendation= s for any needed changes. The group reports to the Standing Committee on S= tandards and is chaired by Becky Culbertson; members include Chris Cronin, = Christee Pascale, and David Reser.

6) The RDA and the BIBCO Standard Record for Textual Monographs Task G=
roup is charged to examine the BIBCO Standard Record MAPs and make recommen= dations for any needed changes. The group reports to the Standing Committe= e on Standards and is chaired by Chris Cronin; members include Robert Maxwe= ll, Christee Pascale, David Reser, and Becky Culbertson.

7) The RDA Training Materials Task Group is charged to collect existin=
g RDA training documentation from PCC and non-PCC sources, review them for = accuracy, and organize and post them to the PCC RDA site for easy navigabil= ity. The group reports to the Standing Committee on Training, and is chair= ed by Larisa Walsh; members include Robert Maxwell, Hien Nguyen, Susan Summ= er, and Amy Turner.

8) The RDA Records Task Group is charged to collect examples of comple=
te MARC RDA bibliographic records for monographic, serial, and integrating = resources representing all formats of material, review those records for co= mpleteness and accuracy, and then post them on the PCC website. The group = reports to the Standing Committee on Training, and is chaired by George Pra= ger; members include Nancy Lorimer, Christee Pascale, and Robert Rendall.

These eight groups are working now. Their reports are expected later this = Spring for discussion at the PCC Operations Committee meeting in early May.

The report of the CONSER Standard Record Task Group, which was co-chaired b= y Kristan Lindlan and Ed Jones, and included members Everett Allgood, Rober= t Bremer, Valerie Bross, Renee Martonik, Robert Rendall, Regina Reynolds, S= teve Shadle, and Dale Swensen, was discussed at the CONSER-at-large meeting= at ALA Midwinter and will soon be reviewed by the PCC Policy Committee.

The report of the Authority Source Citation Task Group, which was chaired b= y Gary Strawn and included John Wright, David Williamson, Robert Bremer, St= ephen Hearn, and Karen Anderson, has been received and is being reviewed by= the PCC Policy Committee.

The PCC Secretariat has created a consolidated table, Status of PCC RDA Tas= k Groups, at http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/RDA-PCC.html, which is very usef= ul for one-stop viewing. The table has the status and deadlines for each g= roup, and the charges are linked there as well.

The RDA Post-Implementation Guidelines Task Group and the PCC Essential Ele= ments Task Group are still in the process of being formed; more information= on these will be forthcoming. Will this be the end of PCC RDA task groups= ? Probably not.

Let me take this opportunity to thank the many people who are hard at work = on these, and earlier, PCC RDA task groups. It clearly takes a village to = think through the many aspects of implementing a new descriptive cataloging= standard, and I am grateful for the willingness of so many PCC members to = spend their brain power working on this. -- Linda

Linda Barnhart

Head, Metadata Services Department

UC San Diego Libraries

 And Program for Cooperative Cataloging Chair, 2011-12

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858-534-6759

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<![endif]>The RDA Policy Statements Task Group, which = is a joint task group with the LC Policy & Standards Division.  Th= is group is charged to review the latest set of RDA Policy Statements and t= o make recommendations indicating the extent to which use of a single set of RDA Policy Statements is agreeable.  = The group is chaired by Manon Theroux, and includes David Reser, Paul Frank= , Linda Gabel, Ed Jones, Robert Maxwell, and Hugh Taylor.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2)     
<![endif]>The Task Group to Formulate or Re= commend PCC/NACO RDA Policy on Authority Issues is charged to formulate or recomm= end PCC policy on the prioritized NACO issues raised in the PCC RDA-Decisio= ns Needed Task Group Final report/spreadsheet, providing clear direction on each issue and noting any contingencies in policy implementation. The g= roup is chaired by Kathy Glennan, and includes Ben Abrahamse, Karen Detling= , Joanna Dyla, Sara Shatford Layne, George Prager, and Paul Frank.<o= :p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3)  &= nbsp;   <![endif]>The
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RDA Provider-Neutral Model and Reproductions Task Group is charged t= o examine the provider-neutral model under RDA and make recommendations for= any needed changes.  The group reports to the Standing Committee on S= tandards and is chaired by Becky Culbertson; members include Chris Cronin, Christee Pascale, and David Reser.<o:p></o:p=
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These eight groups a= re working now.  Their reports are expected later this Spring for disc= ussion at the PCC Operations Committee meeting in early Ma= y.<o:p></o:p> The report of the CONSER Standard Record Task Group, which was co-chaired by Kristan L= indlan and Ed Jones, and included members Everett Allgood, Robert Bremer, V= alerie Bross, Renee Martonik, Robert Rendall, Regina Reynolds, Steve Shadle= , and Dale Swensen, was discussed at the CONSER-at-large meeting at ALA Midwinter and will soon be reviewed = by the PCC Policy Committee.<o:p></o:p></=
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The report of the Authority Source Citation Task Group, which was chaired by Gary Stra= wn and included John Wright, David Williamson, Robert Bremer, Stephen Hearn= , and Karen Anderson, has been received and is being reviewed by the PCC Po= licy Committee.<o:p></o:p> The PCC Secretariat has created = a consolidated table, Status of PCC RDA Task Groups, at <a href=3D"http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/RDA-PCC.html">http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/RDA-PCC.html</a>, which i= s very useful for one-stop viewing.  The table has the status and dead= lines for each group, and the charges  are linked there as well.<o:p></o:p> The
RDA Post-Implementation Guidelines Task Group and the PCC Essenti= al Elements Task Group are still in the process of being formed; more i= nformation on these will be forthcoming.  Will this be the end of PCC = RDA task groups?  Probably not.<o:p></o:p> Let me take this o= pportunity to thank the many people who are hard at work on these, and earl= ier, PCC RDA task groups.  It clearly takes a village to think through the many aspects of implementing a new descriptive catalogin= g standard, and I am grateful for the willingness of so many PCC members to= spend their brain power working on this.  --  Linda<o:p></o:p></=
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Linda Barnhart<o:p></o:p> Head, Metadata Services Department<o:p></o:p> UC San Diego Libraries<o:p></o:p>      And Program for Cooperative Catalo= ging Chair, 2011-12<o:p></o:p> <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a=
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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:16:50 -0500
From: "Carlton, Tim" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: More about two concerns about RDA

Bingo!

Timothy J. Carlton
Senior Instructor
Cooperative and Instructional Programs Division Library of Congress
202-707-5323
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Usual disclaimers apply

-----Original Message-----
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] = On Behalf Of Herrold, Charles
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:39 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More about two concerns about RDA

True enough--I suppose the matter is settled. For example, American heritag= e dictionary gives "cm", without a period, Wikipedia (that fount of all kno=
wledge) has: A centimetre (American spelling: centimeter, symbol cm), and T= he Chicago manual of style (14th ed., at least) gives metric abbreviations = without periods, all of which I confess not to have known. But let's face = it, it has been spelled cm. since the beginning of the card catalog era--th= ough one could argue that this is simply closing punctuation--so let's not = malign those who think of it as an abbreviation. (If it quacks like a duck=
...) =20
 IMO, this seems like a silly thing to argue about anyway, since most A= merican catalog users don't really know what centimeters are anyway, and if= we really wanted to be user friendly we'd be better off using inches, give= n that the U.S. is unlikely to switch to the metric system anytime soon. I= f it has to be "cm" so be it. We can live with that, and implementing RDA = will have far bigger challenges in store than that.
Chuck Herrold
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh

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-----Original Message-----
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] = On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] More about two concerns about RDA

Amy Turner wrote:

> We are used to using "cm." and we'll keep right on using "cm."

Better to teach catalogers to adhere to the standard, which rightfully reco= gnizes that cm is an internationally agreed upon metric symbol which does n= ot include a period. The standard spells out the content of the data to be= included. To record the value cm with a period is wrong. RDA does not re= quire ISBD punctuation, which is really the issue here. In my mind it is b= etter to forget to input a period after cm when there is a 490 present than= to always input an incorrect period after the metric symbol.

Adam Schiff

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