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Re: Oceanic Records

From:

Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>

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Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:07:09 -0700

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I was not aware The Great Northern Hotel had been torn down.Another crime.
Roger

 



________________________________
 From: Louis Hone <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
 
In this article:
http://www.preservationsound.**com/?p=3939<http://www.preservationsound.com/?p=3939>


the rate card for FINE SOUND is fascinating, but it's depressing to see
that today you can get a pretty good studio for the same rate (except that
it should be multiplied by 11 in today's dollars). Maybe there would be
less junk to listen to out there if the rate was $850/hour.

Louis



2012/4/5 Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

> By the way, there was a photo published in the 1990's allegedly of an
> Everest session taking place, with Ted Gossman in the machine room in
> Bayside Queens. The photo was published in Billboard and Mix magazines,
> among others. This was not from an Everest session. I have the proofs
> including that photo, and it was taken after Fine Recording acquired the
> former Everest studio. The studio was being used the day those photos were
> taken to mix one of the "theater of sound" sequences for Mercury's "The
> Civil War" album. That's why all the film machines are set up with little
> rolls of film on them, including the portable machines. The
> narration/music/SFX sequences with Martin Gabel involved many mixed sources
> -- weapons recorded at Gettysburg, ambient sounds like cavalry and marching
> recorded at Gettysburg, music recorded at Eastman in Rochester, narration
> recorded at the studio. This was all mixed into a stereophonic sound-drama
> at Fine Recording Bayside.
>
> Chris Sanchez at the Preservation Sound blog put together a nice history
> of Fine Recording, including details on Bayside. The photo described above,
> plus other photos of the Bayside facility when it was part of Fine
> Recording, are included in the Bayside narrative at the bottom of the
> posting:
> http://www.preservationsound.**com/?p=3939<http://www.preservationsound.com/?p=3939>
> The studio was modified/improved somewhat from the Everest days but was
> similar in layout and equipment.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]
> >
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>
>
>  I'm not sure this information is 100% correct. As I understand it, the
>> only legit reissues actually made from the master films and tapes were the
>> 1990's CDs put out by Vanguard, the SACDs put out by Seymour Solomon's
>> Omega Records and the LPs and DVD-Audio discs put out by Classic Records.
>> The Classic reissues were played back and remastered on different equipment
>> from the Seymour Solomon reissues. The Classic reissues are now available
>> as high-resolution downloads from HDTracks (Chesky Records). As far as I
>> know the FLAC files sold by HDTracks are from WAV files created for the
>> DVD-A discs released by Classic about 10 years ago now. Classic Records is
>> now defunct, its inventory bought out by Analogue Productions (Chad Kassin
>> - sp?) in Kansas.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Roth" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>>
>>
>> Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Everest_Records<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everest_Records>
>>
>> The Everest masters were located in a California vault in 1993 by Seymour
>> Solomon, president of Omega Records and founder of Vanguard Classics. In
>> recent years, some of Everest's audiophile recordings of the Belock/Whyte
>> era have been reissued on compact disc by Collectables Records, DCC Compact
>> Classics, Omega, and Vanguard Classics and on CD, DVD-Audio and LP by
>> Classic Records. [1]
>>
>> Is that helpful at all?
>>
>> Ben Roth
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lesitsky
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:52 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>>
>> May I add my thanks, with a question?
>>
>> Does anyone know to whom the rights to this catalog now belongs?
>> I believe the Everest stereo masters resided briefly at Vanguard where
>> they received their best-sounding CD releases. When Vanguard was sold to
>> Artemis the Everest recordings were not included.
>>
>> I believe a British firm has issued some of the Everest stereo masters,
>> but I don't know anything about their qaulity. It's the early stuff I'm
>> wondering about. I hope they are not owned by a landfill.
>>
>>
>> Al Lesitsky
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>  From: Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:18:16 -0400
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>>>
>>> For some of us, 1968 doesn't seem too long ago, but reading the
>>> Billboard release Tom so kindly dredged up was like opening a volume
>>> of ancient history, when trade papers devoted such space to the
>>> activities of minor classical labels. Sincere thanks for this.
>>>
>>> DDR
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Billboard Nov 16, 1968
>>>> Los Angeles - Everest Records has acquired the catalog of Oceanic
>>>> Records, Inc., of New York, which has been dormant for some years.
>>>> Included are seven operatic titles and instrumental albums, including
>>>> performances featuring pianist Paul Badura-Skoda, cellist Maurice
>>>> Gendron, organist Gustav Leonhardt and conductor Rene Leibowitz.
>>>>  Bernard Solomon, Everest presitdet, explained that the first albums
>>>> of Oceanic material will be issued on Everest, including Everest's
>>>> Opera Series early next year.  Some of the one-LP operatic sets smay
>>>> be packaged with other operas by the same or similar composers to
>>>> create multiple sets which are more economical for the boxed series.
>>>>  Leibowitz conducts three of the operas, including a three-LP package
>>>> of Gluck's "Alceste," a title not currently in the catalog.  Featured
>>>> are Ethel Semser, Enzo Seri, Jean M<ollien, Bernard Demigny, and Jean
>>>> Hoffman with the ParisPhilharmonic Chorus and Orchetra.
>>>>  The other Leibowitz operas, both one-LP sets, are Mussorgsky's "The
>>>> Marriage" with Nicolas Agroff Charlotte Des,azures, Mollien, and
>>>> Alexadre Popovvitsky with the Paris Radio Symphony, and
>>>> Rimsky-Korsakov's "Mozart and Salieri" with <ollien, Jacques
>>>> Linsolas, Paul Jacobs, and the symphony orchestra odf Paris Radio and
>>>> TV.
>>>>  Also included is Josef Keilberth conducting the Saxon State
>>>> Orchestra and the chorus of the Dresden Opera State in a two-record
>>>> set of Richard Strauss'
>>>> "Salome" with Christel Goltz i
>>>> in the title role with Bernd Aldenhoff and Kurt Boehme.  Another
>>>> operatic title is Telemamn's "Pimpinone (The Unequal Marriage)" on
>>>> one disk.  Featured are Helen Fuchs, Erich Lassner, the Salzburg
>>>> String Quartet, and harpsichordist Jonathan Sternberg, Wolfgang
>>>> Messer conductiong.
>>>>  A three-record package of Beethoven's "Fidelio" with Gerhard Pfluger
>>>> conductiong the chorus and orchestra of Mitteldeutsche Radio of
>>>> Leipzig, Margarete Bauemer, Heinz Sauerbaum and Manfred Hubner are
>>>> among the featured vocalissts.
>>>>  Completing the operatic titles is a two-record package of Nichlai's
>>>> "The Merry Wives of Windsor."  Rolf Kleinert conducts the chorus and
>>>> orchestra of Mittledeutsch Radio and soloists including Theodor
>>>> Horand and Boehme.
>>>>  One Leibowitz instrumental album has the Paris Philharmonic in
>>>> Corelli's "Concerto fo Oboe and Strings," and the Paris Radio
>>>> Symphony in Gluck's "Flute Concerto in G" with Rampal and Haydn's
>>>> "Toy Symphony."
>>>>  Leibowits also is the conductor in two choral albums: Faure's
>>>> Requiem with Nadine Southreau, Dem,igny and the Paris Philharmonic
>>>> Chorus and orchestra, and Liszt's "Missa Choralis" with the Paris
>>>> Select Choir and organist Giuseppe Englert.
>>>>  Leibowitz's other instrumental albums are a pairing of Bizet's
>>>> "Symphony in C" and Schubert's "Symphony No.1" with the Paris Radio
>>>> Symphony; a coupling of Beethoven piano concertos with pianist Paul
>>>> Jacobs and the Paris Radio Symphony; and a Beethoven orchestral
>>>> program  Jonathan Sternberg conducts the Vienna Academy Choir and the
>>>> Vienna State Opera Orchestra in Rossini's "Stabat Mater" with tenor
>>>> Anton Dermota, baritone Paul Shoeffler, soprano Ilona Steingruber and
>>>> alto Dagmar Hermann as the quartet of soloists.
>>>>  Gendron is the soloist in a pairing of Haydn's "Cello Concerto in D"
>>>> and Saint-Saens'
>>>> "Cello Concerto" with Sternberg and the Vienna State Opera Orchestra.
>>>>  Sternberg conducts
>>>> the Vienna Symphony in a coupling of Mozart's "Piano Concertos No. 14
>>>> and 22" with Badura-Skoda as soloist.
>>>>  Leonhardt is the soloist in Handel's "Oboe Concertos Nos. 3 and 4"
>>>> in an album with Ernst Kuyler and the chamber orchestra of the Vienna
>>>> State Opera.
>>>>  Brahms' "Liebeslieder Waltzes, Opp.52 and 65" are performed on an
>>>> album with soprano Erna Hassler, alto Hetty Plumacher, tenor Albert
>>>> Weikenmeier, bass Franz Kelch, and pianists Hans Priegnitz and Hans
>>>> Michael.
>>>>  Completing the Oceanic titles is an album of three Handel Italian
>>>> cantatas featuring soprano Agnes Giebel, harpsichordist Helma Eisner,
>>>> recorder Alfred Mann, cellist Helmut Reinmann, and Stuttgart's
>>>> Tanstudio Orchestra under Rudolf Lamy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Billboard May 20, 1950
>>>>  The first complete recording of Beethoven's only opera, Fidelio, has
>>>> been scheduled for June release by Vox Records.  The work, cut by the
>>>> Central German Broadcasting System, with Gerhard Pfleuger conduction,
>>>> will be released on three long playing disks, and will retail at
>>>> $18.95.  Vox licensed the production from OCEANIC Records, and
>>>> American0owned indie.
>>>>
>>>> Billboard Oct 15, 1955  550G Oceanic Oscar suit.
>>>>
>>>> Billboard Feb 2, 1952
>>>> ...Period Music, producer of Renaissance, Period and Oceanic records
>>>> here, is having it's LP's distributed in France under the Classic
>>>> label, and in England by the Nixa Record Company.
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1974  quad releases on Everest Olympic label
>>>> 1950  Richard Strauss' Salome
>>>> 1951  Rossini's Stabat Mater
>>>> 1952  Gluck  Alceste
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On
>>>> Behalf Of Steven Smolian
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:22 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was originally owned by Arthur whose last name escapes me at the
>>>> moment.
>>>> I knew him.
>>>>
>>>> He told me a story about the Rossini Stabat Mater with Dermota.  D had a
>>>> cold.  He sang a line and then schnochled- not an everyday word.  He
>>>> breathed in and cleared the mucus from his nose.  The resultant tape was
>>>> edited to remove the non-Rossinian pauses.  It's still a pretty good
>>>> performance by him.  And  the bass, whose name I also forget, who does a
>>>> great job with the chorus on the instrumentally unaccompanied  "Quando
>>>> corpus."
>>>>
>>>> My files don't show a successor but I think their stuff came out in
>>>> England
>>>> on Saga and I think they kept some of the line in print for a while
>>>> after
>>>> Oceanic ceased.  I assume they sent $$ to some American outfit and,
>>>> should
>>>> their paper records survive, they may well have this data.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Smolian
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>] On
>>>> Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:27 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Oceanic Records
>>>>
>>>> Dear List,
>>>>
>>>> Renaissance was a label that lately engendered quite a bit of
>>>> discussion re
>>>> ownership. I recently had a query re Oceanic, a coeval independent LP
>>>> label.
>>>> Does anyone have any information on its succession of interest, present
>>>> owner, etc., etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> DDR
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis D. Rooney
>>>> 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE
>>>> New York, NY 10023
>>>> 212.874.9626
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dennis D. Rooney
>>> 303 W. 66th Street, 9HE
>>> New York, NY 10023
>>> 212.874.9626
>>>
>>
>>

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