Thank you for confirming what I thought.I was unaware these were recorded at USOs,but it would make sense.If I can find the ones I have,does anybody want them?
What does anybody know about the Capitol cardboard/fiberboard records of the same vintage...which are just as unplayable.
From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WWII "Your Man In Service" Record
From: Corey Bailey
> The two clues that you give are the time frame and the off-center hole.
> Your disc is most likely 78RPM and was possibly made with one of the
> commercial disc making booths available at Woolworth and many other
> retailers of the time. It was popular during WWII for people to use
> these booths to record voice messages to send to loved ones overseas.
No, there were set-ups at U.S.O.s expressly for the servicemen. You
would not go to a booth in Woolworth's that anybody could use and get a
record specifically labelled as from "Your Man In Service". The regular
booths were usually labeled Record-O-Graph. There were several
different USO discs that will be found. My favorite is one with
pictures of scenes at USOs visible thru the clear coating. A few of
them were steel base, but every Pepsi disc I've seen were fibreboard
based and of relatively poor quality compared to the other blanks
available. Do not clean them with liquid.
> I was told that Elvis Prestley actually used one of these booths in
> Memphis to record a voice demo.
He went to the Memphis Recording Service's studio.
> Not sure about the Pepsi logo but if
> it's a commercially made recording you will be much better off.
Being better off with a commercially made recording does not enter into
this -- THIS is the disc he has, the ONE that he has to work with.
Pepsi was one of several companies which donated to the U.S.O. to
support the recording services for the soldiers.
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
Anyway, these discs are VERY FRAGILE, most likely have a cardboard
center. Very few have survived the raviges of time and many of those
that have, are marginally playable due to surface cracks (crazing) ans
Start by playing your disc at 78RPM using an appropriate styli with
minimal tracking force and see what you get. Record everything you do!
You may only have one chance at playback and if it's off-speed, it can
be corrected. Use standard RCA Victor 78RPM EQ to start with. If it's a
little off, it can be corrected in the digital domain as well. I don't
intend to sound flip here but you probably have a voice recording and,
as such, have lot's of lattitude with regards to pitch and EQ settings.
From: Lou Houck <[log in to unmask]>
> My two cents...I have a couple of these from a thrift store in San Antonio,
> purchased 15 years ago or so. They have the Pepsi Cola logo. Made the
> mistake of cleaning with water and the label printing bled. Also, one disc
> was in bad shape. The groove was cut clear through the surface to the
> cardboard (I think) below. Lou Houck Rollin' Recording Boerne, TX
On 5/30/2012 11:09 AM, Ivan Kawaler wrote:
> No, this is clearly not cardboard. In my question about cleaning, I
> mentioned that I found a reference stating they were acetate. However,
> the site was some type of auction, so a more knowledgeable opinion would
> be appreciated.
> On May 30, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Roger Kulp wrote:
>> I have found a couple of these.They're cardboard,right?
>> Good luck trying to play them.I would like to know if anybody has had any
>> success in playing similar records,and getting any sound from them.
>> I was digging in the Goodwill clearance bins a few months ago,and I found
>> a number of those Capitol Records home recording records that were a
>> similar type of cardboard records.
>> These records can give us a very interesting little audio snapshot of a
>> moment in time,and what real people were doing and thinking,but
>> unfortunately most of what is on these records is lost forever.
>> From: Ivan Kawaler <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:24 AM
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] WWII "Your Man In Service" Record
>> I was recently asked to transfer, and attempt to restore, a record of my
>> grandfather from World War II. It is one of the small acetate records
>> with the Pepsi:Cola logo on it, and is 6-3/8" in diameter. I think they
>> are relatively common, but if more information about it is necessary, I
>> can pass that along. I do have audio training, and was even a member of
>> ARSC, until I gave up trying to find related audio work. In any case, I
>> have little experience with records beyond my father showing me how to
>> clean and play 33s. If someone could answer some questions so I can get
>> as good of playback as I can, I would appreciate it.
>> First, I do not know what speed this record should be played at. At
>> first, I thought 78 RPM, but I am not sure. All I know is that it would
>> fit the center spindle on the turntable I have without the included 45
>> RPM adapter. Can anyone verify?
>> Also, it likely needs some cleaning. I still have some cleaner for use
>> with vinyl, but since this is acetate, I want to be 100% certain it is
>> safe. If a cleaner is safe for vinyl, does that necessarily mean it is
>> safe for use with acetate?
>> Additionally, I know enough about older recordings to know that numerous
>> equalization curves have been implemented throughout the history of the
>> record. Will I need to apply one to get proper playback? Also, I am
>> familiar with the RIAA equalization that eventually became standard, but
>> since this recording was made in the mid-1940s, that should not be used,
>> Finally, I noticed that there are two holes in the disc. One obviously
>> aligns with the center spindle on a turntable, but the other is
>> off-centered. My best, though naive, guess is that it is for another
>> spindle that was located on a platter on turntables that did not have a
>> disc stabilizer. Am I correct? Maybe I should be asking, how far off is
>> my guess?
>> I would also like to apologize for posting to the list as a non-ARSC
>> member. Since I was unable to find audio work, or even work in the IT
>> field, where I have my most recent training, I could not justify spending
>> the money to continue my membership.
>> Ivan Kawaler