No they are not on a torch label,or an AKKORD label.Nor are they on that red label with the script.Too tired to Google translation,starts with "D" I think.They are on a plain white label with green lettering.The Borodin has a silhouette of a three masted ship on the label as well.They are 78 microgroove,with a Cyrillic D or д prefix in front of the side numbers.There is a non Cyrillic "D" prefix in the dead vinyl.The labels say "7-00 78 oб".The original owner also wrote "78 RPM" on the labels.
I have a couple of Van Cliburn records on a torch label.One is a coarse groove 78.
Roger
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> Yes.I have three of these 78s.They have a (license?) number of 5289-56.
These are government manufacturing standard numbers, called "Gost" (in
cyrillic it looks like "roct") which appear on every manufactured
product in the USSR. roct 5289 is the standard for manufacturing
phonograph records, and the number after the dash is the year of the
latest update. You will find -50, -56, -61, -72, -80, and -88 if my
memory serves me correctly. They will help date the pressing.
> I am guessing 1954 would be the year.All are on a label,with a stylized "BZ",
> or the Cyrillic equivalent as the logo.
If it is a torch flame, the letters are AZ for Aprelvsky Zavod, or
Aprelvsk Factory.
>> All are by the Orchestra of The Bolshoi Theater.The first one is with
>> Alexander Melik-Pashayev,the other two are by a conductor,whose name
>> I can't readily translate,whose last name is F---r(?).
From: "Don Tait ([log in to unmask])" <[log in to unmask]>
> The conductor's name was Yuri Fedorovich Faier (or Fayer). 1890-1971. To
> judge from the discographic evidence I've seen he was primarily a conductor
> of ballet. Don Tait
>> They are
>> 146-147 Polovetsian Maiden's Dance from "Prince Igor"/In The Steppes of Central Asia
>> 999-1000 Swan Lake Excerpts Act 3
>> 1005-1006 Swan Lake Excerpts Act 1
Are these the 78 microgrooves, 33 microgrooves, or 78 standard play?
What is the letter prefix of these matrix numbers? If they are
microgroove they would have a D prefix, and would be handscribed if in
the original series. Since you mention a 1956 Gost date, there is a
possibility that they were re-cut and would have an HD prefix where the
H is the cyrillic N for Novy or new. The D is for the impossibly long
word that means long playing and would be on the label somewhere. By
the later 50s the matrix numbers would be stamped.
> I have three 10" Lps on the same label,all by the Bolshoi,and one with
> Nikolai Golovanov doing an "1812",but my favorite is a 10" Latvian pressing,
> on the Rigas Skanuplasu Fabrika Ilgi Spelejosa label,of the,1954 I think,
> Rachmaninoff Concerto No.1 by Richter,with the same 5289-56 number.The label
> is yellow and blue,with sailboats on it. Roger
The Riga factory had a number of very colorful labels in the 50s. After
the break-up of Melodiya the factory was purchased by a member of the
rock group Time Machine.
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
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> Very interesting. In the USSR, Melodiya issued some 7- and 8-inch 78 rpm
> microgroove records on their version of plastic of some kind.
Actually the early 78 Microgroove Soviet (NOT Melodiya -- that trademark
did not start until 1964) discs from around 1953 were 8 and 10-inch, not
7-inch. They were intermixed in the numerical series with the 10 and
12-inch 33 RPM microgrooves. I have about 25 or 30 of these 78
microgroove discs. The labels were usually the AZ torch label for the
Aprelvsky Zavod pressing plant. I haven't seem LPs this early from the
other pressing plants with their own labels.
> Not a shellac compound but with constant loud surface noise.
>(Does anyone know what the material was?)
It was vinyl, just not a very high grade. Ironically, the shellac
standard groove 78s the Soviets pressed at that time in the 50s and
later were VERY quiet and completely free from surface noise when new --
and wore very well. In the early 1980s the Soviets -- now using the
Melodiya trademark exclusively -- finally started to use very quiet
vinyl for their discs. During the final decade or so into the mid-90s
their LPs were very good.
From Tom Fine:
>> For the last two Record Store Days, there have been limited-edition 10" 78RPM
>> microgroove vinyl issues. In 2011, it was the Beach Boys, which was discussed
>> in detail on this list.
>> For this year, Tompkins Square Records in SF put out two 78's, one by Luther Dickson
>>(solo guitar with one half of a side including duet guitar) and Dr. Ralph Stanley.
>> Details in the middle of this page: http://www.tompkinssquare.com/
There have been other microgroove 78s recently, especially the Bix piano
pieces recorded by Bryan Wright on Rivermont Records
http://www.rivermontrecords.com/bsv2212.html , Andy Schumn on the same
label http://www.rivermontrecords.com/592.html , a series of singles and
actual book-albums by a retro-rock brother and sister duo(can't remember
their name), Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, and the Preservation Hall Jazz
Band among others. There have been dozens of other examples of
microgroove 78s during the past 20 or 30 years. It's nothing new. I
wrote about these types of issues in the ARSC Journal back in the late
1970s and early 80s.
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
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