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Re: Sheet Music was Photos of The Colony NYC

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Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:49:59 -0400

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ROGER - PLEASE FIX THE REPLY ADDRESS PROBLEM!!!

Anyone know of a currently in business sheet music store which might have
a fairly old series of books "Aksel Schiotz collection of Nordic Solo Song" ????????????????????

Thanks! Best wishes, Thomas.

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Roger Kulp
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:24 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC


There used to be an incredible sheet music store like that here in Albuquerque.It was called "The Music Mart".That was pretty much
all they sold.They had inventory going back to the mid 1940s.They closed about 1999.I have no clue what happened to their
inventory.

Roger

 



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 From: Sam Brylawski <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC

If this has been mentioned in the Colony thread I missed it and
apologize for parrotting. I recall, along with so many of you, the
outrageous prices and "service" at the store.

But it was the best store for sheet music I have ever been in. They
carried an immense inventory, probably unparalleled for scores of
standards and B'way shows. They not only seemed to carry every
published full piano-vocal score, but tens of thousands of individual
songs. I remember someone saying that they once asked for a 1930s song
and the clerk opened a drawer and pulled out the original edition.
Sheet music and score prices seem to be rarely, if ever, discounted so
the amounts they asked never seemed abusive. The staff was another
matter.

Sam Brylawski


>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:53 AM, "Steve Smolian" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> In the days before credit cards, one important feature that Colony shared with Liberty and a few other list price and up shops
in NYC was that they allowed charge accounts to businesses and celebrities.
>>
>> Steve Smolian
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Barton, Matthew
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:43 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC
>>
>> I'm glad to see that Footlight is still operating on the web. The website shut for few months ca. 2008-9, after the bricks and
mortar store closed in 2005.
>>
>> Colony was once less weird and surly, but the records were always overpriced in my experience and I first checked them out as
an NYU student ca. 1980.
>>
>> I think they thrived largely because of their proximity to the theater, film and TV world in New York. In the mid-1990s, before
the internet really got going and before Virgin Records opened in Times Square, a friend who edited commercials for a company in
that neighborhood told me that Colony was their first stop when they needed music. Convenience was much more important than price
for them.
>>
>> Colony always seemed to have a deep stock of original cast CDs, and tourists from overseas were used to paying more for CDs
anyway. They also got over by being a store of last resort. When you price records as high as they did, you're likely to be the
last one in town with a copy, although it might be beat to hell from all the time it spent in your bin.
>>
>> Rockit Scientist on St. Mark's Place, which closed earlier this year, was a much greater loss. A lot of the best shopping for
used vinyl is now at the record shows in Manhattan and Brooklyn.
>>
>> Partners & Crime, a wonderful bookstore in Greenwich Village specializing in mysteries and who hosted live dramatizations of
classic radio detective shows, closes this Thursday. l've been in there a couple of times recently, and people there said that the
store has been a break-even proposition for all of its 18 year history, but now they lose money consistently. The landlord likes
them and wants them to stay, but they say they would have trouble covering costs even if the rent were only a thousand a month,
and this has been the case for other independent and specialty bookstores in New York. Its probably the same for record stores.
>>
>> Matthew Barton
>> Library of Congress
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Biel
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:54 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC
>>
>> From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Yes, one can see how they go out of business. Now that I see the
>>> photos, I was there once and walked out laughing at the ridicu-prices.
>>
>> LAUGHING!!  Yes, that has always been our reaction.  The first time we took Leah to NYC in her junior year in high school, I
took here there and we laughed and laughed and laughed.  They still had some of the LPs upstairs, and even then she knew prices
and recognized things in my collection.  And now that she lives there she went in every once in a while when she needed a good
pick-me-up and a giggle.  Looking at all of the fading memorabilia was sad that they were destroying it in their ignorance, but
listening to the abusive staff made it all worthwhile -- they DESERVED it!
>>
>> She'll go back in a day or two to photograph closed signs and laugh over the carcass.  When Footlights closed a few years ago
we all mourned them
>> -- as well as getting GREAT bargains. They went on-line.  I wonder what the Colony will do with its stock.
>>
>> From: "Jim Sam" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> The reviews are interesting.
>>>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/colony-records-new-york
>>
>> That they are!!! Such as: "The thing I HATE WITH ALL OF MY SOUL about this store is that the guys who are hired to help you
find music obviously sign agreements in blood stating that they will be as
>> unhelpful, rude, and curt to you as possible."  When Leah wanted a
>> price on Saturday, she waited to find the friendliest looking guy but he sent her to another guy who when asking a third guy
she overheard "Who is asking?"  You NEVER are supposed to be so BLATANT that you are basing your prices on who the customer is.
>>
>> I also love the long one with the dialog between the customer in the basement and the weirdo -- which turned out to be the
owner.  These comments fit this place to a T.
>>
>> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>> They didn't even have any must-have-at-any-price items, at least
>> not for me. There are still several excellent used vinyl stores in the Village, and why would anyone buy a new (or used) CD at
any retail outlet when there is Amazon "new and used" and almost anything can be had for $5 or less, usually shrink-wrapped? As
for used vinyl, I usually look but don't buy in Manhattan. In its favor, culturally, NYC is a place where people tend to love
their music. So what ends up in these stores is mostly too-well-loved for me to crack open the wallet. That said, what I have
found in superb condition in NYC are more-obscure spoken-word records, and "status"
>> stuff like the Reader's Digest/RCA/Decca sets and the Time-Life jazz sets. What also pops up from time to time are
still-wrapped records from the 70's and early 80's that have tricked down from the bankruptcies of larger stores and chains.
Usually these records are stamped with dollar price tags (which is NOT the current price) and have a hole punched or a corner cut
off, literally cut-outs.
>> The best score I ever had in that regard was a bunch of still-wrapped Mercury Golden Imports and Decca Jubilees for $1 each.
The guy said he had them for several years, got them as part of a larger buy of bankruptcy detritis, and was happy to see the
floor space cleared up. For a buck a sealed record, I'll buy anything that's within my taste parameters, that's as cheap as a
single song download.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine

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