I see it :-()
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Interesting thread. I mentioned it to a producer and music director fo
> plays and musicals, and he loved it for the selection of sheet music.
> Never been there, but now I never will overpriced or whatever..
> If this message appears on the list I'd appreciate a reply; it is my third
> attempt and I feel discriminated against! Am I reaching you?
> Lou Judson
> Intuitive Audio
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Tom Fine wrote:
> > Roger, you still haven't fixed your e-mail client so the reply-to goes
> to ARSC List instead of you. Goren Finberg was kind enough to lay out
> exactly how to fix this problem about a month ago, refer to the ARSC List
> archives for specifics. That said ...
> > Your blanket statement is somewhat true but definitely not my experience
> in my favorite record stores. In fact, I buy almost all my used LPs and new
> LPs in actual stores because I find it so helpful to browse physical items,
> inspect the item myself and speak with helpful staff.
> > As for in-store music, I have been led to music purchases by what was
> playing in the background on three separate occasions, once each in the
> Rochester stores Record Archive and Bop Shop and a third time at Bleeker
> Street Records (not to be confused with vastly over-rated Bleeker Bob's) in
> the Village. The other record store I like very much is Gerosa's in CT, but
> I'd agree with anyone who says their prices are on the high side.
> > There's a total hellhole record store in NJ, forgot exactly where but I
> think it's near Pompton Lakes. The place is disgusting, like needing a
> shower ASAP if you get near the floor or the backroom area (and beware of
> cat urine on anything you may wish to buy). However, the one time I was in
> there I had one of my best days ever in a record store, excellent value on
> everything I bought and shockingly good condition given the general filth
> of the place. In that store, the help was sub-friendly and sub-helpful
> (more interested in smelly lunches and chain-smoking and watching TV), but
> like I said the stacks were magical.
> > -- Tom Fine
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kulp" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC
> > Rude staff? Poor selection? Prices way above eBay? Sounds like every
> record store I've been in in the last ten to twelve years or so.I would
> also add,playing the local classic rock station,rather than introducing
> customers to new,or different music.
> > It's one thing to sit and wax nostalgic about what record stores used to
> be like in 19xx,talk about what a great thing they are,and how they should
> be saved.But it's quite another,when every store in your town is like
> this.People in their teens and twenties must wonder why us old farts think
> they were so great..I have spent a lot of time at various audio,and record
> collecting discussion groups in recent years,and this seems to be a common
> problem all over the US and Canada.So much so,that people in other parts of
> the world,especially South America,and the Pacific Rim,are shocked at how
> bad it's gotten.Yes there are a few exceptions.I've heard the list before.
> > Record stores are responsible for their own decline and demise.
> > Roger
> > ________________________________
> > From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Photos of The Colony NYC
> > From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Yes, one can see how they go out of business. Now that
> >> I see the photos, I was there once and walked out
> >> laughing at the ridicu-prices.
> > LAUGHING!! Yes, that has always been our reaction. The first time we
> > took Leah to NYC in her junior year in high school, I took here there
> > and we laughed and laughed and laughed. They still had some of the LPs
> > upstairs, and even then she knew prices and recognized things in my
> > collection. And now that she lives there she went in every once in a
> > while when she needed a good pick-me-up and a giggle. Looking at all of
> > the fading memorabilia was sad that they were destroying it in their
> > ignorance, but listening to the abusive staff made it all worthwhile --
> > they DESERVED it!
> > She'll go back in a day or two to photograph closed signs and laugh over
> > the carcass. When Footlights closed a few years ago we all mourned them
> > -- as well as getting GREAT bargains. They went on-line. I wonder what
> > the Colony will do with its stock.
> > From: "Jim Sam" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> The reviews are interesting.
> >>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/colony-records-new-york
> > That they are!!! Such as: "The thing I HATE WITH ALL OF MY SOUL about
> > this store is that the guys who are hired to help you find music
> > obviously sign agreements in blood stating that they will be as
> > unhelpful, rude, and curt to you as possible." When Leah wanted a
> > price on Saturday, she waited to find the friendliest looking guy but he
> > sent her to another guy who when asking a third guy she overheard "Who
> > is asking?" You NEVER are supposed to be so BLATANT that you are basing
> > your prices on who the customer is.
> > I also love the long one with the dialog between the customer in the
> > basement and the weirdo -- which turned out to be the owner. These
> > comments fit this place to a T.
> > Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> >> They didn't even have any must-have-at-any-price items, at least
> > not for me. There are still several excellent used vinyl stores in the
> > Village, and why would anyone
> > buy a new (or used) CD at any retail outlet when there is Amazon "new
> > and used" and almost anything
> > can be had for $5 or less, usually shrink-wrapped? As for used vinyl, I
> > usually look but don't buy
> > in Manhattan. In its favor, culturally, NYC is a place where people tend
> > to love their music. So
> > what ends up in these stores is mostly too-well-loved for me to crack
> > open the wallet. That said,
> > what I have found in superb condition in NYC are more-obscure
> > spoken-word records, and "status"
> > stuff like the Reader's Digest/RCA/Decca sets and the Time-Life jazz
> > sets. What also pops up from
> > time to time are still-wrapped records from the 70's and early 80's that
> > have tricked down from the
> > bankruptcies of larger stores and chains. Usually these records are
> > stamped with dollar price tags
> > (which is NOT the current price) and have a hole punched or a corner cut
> > off, literally cut-outs.
> > The best score I ever had in that regard was a bunch of still-wrapped
> > Mercury Golden Imports and
> > Decca Jubilees for $1 each. The guy said he had them for several years,
> > got them as part of a larger
> > buy of bankruptcy detritis, and was happy to see the floor space cleared
> > up. For a buck a sealed
> > record, I'll buy anything that's within my taste parameters, that's as
> > cheap as a single song
> > download.
> > -- Tom Fine