This is great! Thanks as always for the great information, Kohji.
I agree about those two albums, music and sound. I have the two 2-track tapes. Now I know which LPs
to be on the lookout for.
Another interesting Mercury project from the early days of stereo was "500 Miles To Glory," a
sound-montage presentation of the Indy 500 race as recorded by Bill Putnam, Mal Chisholm and crew.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "MATSUBAYASHI 'Shaolin' Kohji" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sarah Vaughn on Mercury question
> Tom-san, here's one thing -
> stereo version the tracks from the "Music From Hi-Fi Bugs" exists.
>
> It's "Music From Out Of Space" (Mercury SR-60118/MG-20550)
> and "Rhythm Meets Rugolo" (Mercury SR-60119/MG-20551),
> shuffled recompilations of "Hi-Fi Bugs" (EmArcy MG-36082) and
> "Out On A Limb" (EmArcy MG-36115).
>
> They are sounding superb - one of the best-sounding
> early Mercury Pop recordings and one of my favourites indeed.
>
> http://microgroove.jp/mercury/SR60118.shtml
> http://microgroove.jp/mercury/SR60119.shtml
>
> Kohji
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Kohji-san:
>>
>> Thank you for checking that. In 1958, a session at Fine Recording studio
>> would likely be done in 2-track stereo and full-track mono at the same
>> time. However, it's possible that some of these pop sessions weren't
>> recorded in stereo. In those early days of the studio, the Gates Dualux
>> console was only set up for 2-channel output for stereo. I'm still not
>> exactly sure how they did mono and stereo at the same time. The late Bob
>> Eberenz told me that mono masters were made from a dub that combined the
>> two stereo tracks, sometimes just cutting a master playing the 2-track tape
>> on a full-track head and usually doing some dynamics compression and EQ
>> directly to the single master so as to make it jump out of the speakers
>> more on AM radios. But, given the use of a mono master for the CD and LP, I
>> guess that's what's in the vaults. Like I said, it's possible the session
>> was ordered up in mono. The Gates board was perfectly capable of mixing any
>> or all of the 12 input channels to a single output channel.
>>
>> Do you know if these tracks ended up on a Sarah Vaughn LP, and if so which
>> one? If there's an SR version of it, then there was at one time a stereo
>> master.
>>
>> By the way, I've seen this happen in a few cases with old Mercury records.
>> A case in point is the Charlie Rich stuff from Smash. Some songs ended up
>> on CD only from mono singles masters, whereas I have stereo LPs that
>> contain all stereo versions of all songs. The same is true of at least some
>> Cannonball Adderley stuff and I think some Dinah Washington stuff. We may
>> have discussed the Cannonball material on-list and now that I think about
>> it I might have been wrong about whatever I initially said. There is also
>> some Mercury pop material that was released on 2-track tape in stereo but
>> then never later released on stereo LP. For instance Pete Rugolo "Music for
>> Hi-Fi Bugs" on Emarcy, never seen a stereo LP of those songs.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MATSUBAYASHI 'Shaolin' Kohji" <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sarah Vaughn on Mercury question
>>
>>
>> Hi Tom-san,
>>>
>>> I confirmed that the following tracks (from the Sep. 26, 1958 session with
>>> Hal Mooney Orchestra)
>>> are included in monaural on "The Complete Sarah Vaughan on Mercury Vol. 3"
>>> (Nippon Phonogram 18PJ-1041/46, 826 333-1).
>>> My copy is 6LP edition, which I believe is equivalent to 6CD edition.
>>>
>>> 17990-7 Cool Baby
>>> 18018-10 Everything I Do
>>> 18019-14 I Ain't Hurtin'
>>> 18020-6 Disillusioned Heart
>>>
>>> That five volume discography by Ruppli mentions the master number of "Cool
>>> Baby" as
>>> 17990-7 (PB 4374), so at least the "Cool Baby" was mastered both in mono
>>> and stereo
>>> at that time. Not sure for other three tracks. I guess three-track stereo
>>> master tapes might
>>> exist still in the vaults (but AFAIK not mastered to two tracks nor
>>> released yet in the past).
>>>
>>> Kohji
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>**
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have this CD set:
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/****product/B000VIWIKG/ref=dm_sp_****<http://www.amazon.com/gp/**product/B000VIWIKG/ref=dm_sp_**>
>>>> alb/189-7275718-6834958<http:/**/www.amazon.com/gp/product/**
>>>> B000VIWIKG/ref=dm_sp_alb/189-**7275718-6834958<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VIWIKG/ref=dm_sp_alb/189-7275718-6834958>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> (The Complete Sarah Vaughan On Mercury Vol.3)
>>>>
>>>> If so, can you confirm that "I Ain't Hurtin'" and "Disillusioned Heart"
>>>> on
>>>> disc 5 are indeed released in mono as are these online samples?
>>>>
>>>> If they are in mono, I wonder what happened to the stereo masters??? I
>>>> have a copy of the Fine Recording take sheet for that session (looks like
>>>> it was 9/26/58) and all indications are that the session was recorded in
>>>> both stereo and mono. Maybe they only went with mono singles masters for
>>>> this box set?
>>>>
>>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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