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Subject:

Re: "Each BIBFRAME Instance is an instance of one and,only one BIBFRAME Work"

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"Ford, Kevin" <[log in to unmask]>

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Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:14:14 -0500

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> But of course I'm guilty of speculation - it's just how I'd personally
> do it based on what has been presented in the document :)

-- Whenever possible, what you outlined, and what Jodi seconded, is basically what we've been doing with respect to our early experiments modelling our bibliographic data using the BIBFRAME model.

The reality, however, reveals how far we have yet to travel.  Our record doesn't have the granularity one would ideally want, at least not presently:

http://lccn.loc.gov/90123205/marcxml

Yours,

Kevin




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ford, Kevin
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:02 PM
> To: Ford, Kevin
> Subject: RE: [BIBFRAME] "Each BIBFRAME Instance is an instance of one
> and,only one BIBFRAME Work"
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Owen Stephens
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] "Each BIBFRAME Instance is an instance of one
> and,only one BIBFRAME Work"
> 
> My interpretation is that Plays from Black Australia is a Creative Work
> which has relationships to four other Works (Dreamers, Murras, Coorday
> and Keepers) the relationships indicate these four works form part of a
> larger work.
> 
> You can have instances of Plays from Black Australia, but also
> instances of the other works if they have been published in their own
> right.
> 
> But of course I'm guilty of speculation - it's just how I'd personally
> do it based on what has been presented in the document :)
> 
> Owen
> 
> Owen Stephens
> Owen Stephens Consulting
> Web: http://www.ostephens.com
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> Telephone: 0121 288 6936
> 
> On 26 Nov 2012, at 17:26, "LE PAPE, Philippe" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 26/11/2012 17:04, Owen Stephens a écrit :
> Under the Work description on p10
> "Works can relate to other Works reflecting, for example, part /
> whole relationships."
> 
> I guess this is what we are talking about here?
> 
> Not quite. Rather this, which is an anthology of 4 plays (example taken
> from RDA 25.1.1.3):
> Contains: Davis, Jack, 1917-2000. Dreamers
> Contains: Johnson, Eva. Murras
> Contains: Walley, Richard. Coordah
> Contains: Maza, Bob, 1939-2000. Keepers Resource described: Plays from
> Black Australia / Jack Davis, Eva Johnson, Richard Walley, Bob Maza ;
> with an introduction by Justine Saunders.
> 
> Which BIBFRAME Work is Plays from Black Australia an instance of? Or is
> it a BIBFRAME Work in its own right?
> I suppose we'll have an answer to that...
> 
> Ph.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Owen Stephens
> Owen Stephens Consulting
> Web: http://www.ostephens.com
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> Telephone: 0121 288 6936
> 
> On 26 Nov 2012, at 15:34, Diane Hillmann <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Philippe:
> 
> I had the same response, immediately thinking of things like collected
> stories (single or multiple authors) and serial issues. These are
> certainly fairly common in bibliographic metadata, and were not well
> handled in MARC or MODS. The FRBR model, though admittedly a complex
> beast, accommodated these materials, and gave some hope that there
> could be ways of handling those kinds of materials in ways that a
> machine could understand, rather than (as usual) depending on the human
> user to figure it out.
> 
> Diane Hillmann
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "LE PAPE, Philippe" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> Dear Everybody,
> 
> Colleagues have already expressed their concern about the vanishing of
> FRBR Expression entity in Zepheira's "BIBFRAME" model, but I was rather
> puzzled by this:
> 
> "Each BIBFRAME Instance is an instance of one and,only one BIBFRAME
> Work." P. 10.
> 
> What about (FRBR) Manifestations embodying more than one (FRBR) Work
> then? Will there be something like compound (BIBFRAME) instances? Or
> will the aggregation be done at the (BIBFRAME) Work level?
> 
> Ph.
> --
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