Here are two interesting documents concerning Van Cliburn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RekWsRCKqeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhFGI4Pb7FM
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Karl Miller <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Dave,
>
> None of the recordings I have were from Van's personal collection, only
> things I
> acquired from other collectors. Unfortunately I don't have many solo
> recital
> things. As far as I know few of his solo recitals were broadcast. I have
> but one
> which I got from a collector in Louisiana.
>
> By the way, the story about finding his 1st concerto performance might be
> of
> interest. A woman I knew was writing a book about the history of
> broadcasting in
> Texas. I told her of my interest in the Houston Symphony. Three weeks
> later she
> was at a cocktail party and met a man who had worked with Texas Gulf and
> Sulphur. They had sponsored weekly broadcasts of the Orchestra. She got his
> phone number. Turns out that the discs of those performances had been
> rotting
> away in an airplane hanger (owned by the company, but long since
> abandoned). He
> got them to me and I dubbed them. Many of them were on glass and already
> broken.
> The man told me that he later found more of the series, but before I could
> get
> them, I was moved to another position in the library. I doubt that my
> successor
> ever followed up on the lead. My successor once said, "why do you bother
> with
> those old scratchy discs, people want it on CD..." I will always remember
> that
> comment as it encapsulates what was my experience in dealing with my fellow
> librarians...and the library profession in general.
>
> Best,
>
> Karl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, February 28, 2013 9:46:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
>
> Karl,
>
> In processing so much of Van's private recordings, did you happen to run
> into some
> of the other pieces within Rachmaninoff's Etudes-Tableaux Op. 39. He
> recorded No.
> 5 for RCA Victor, but I don't see anything else from this set. I was hoping
> he might have
> gotten around to No. 3.
>
> Uncle Dave Lewis
> Lebanon, OH
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Karl Miller <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
>
> > On the subject of Cliburn...years ago when I as curator of the U of Texas
> > recordings collection, I arranged for the deposit of the Houston Symphony
> > archives. Through some personal connections I was able to locate the
> discs
> > of
> > Cliburn's debut with the Houston Symphony. He was 12 years old and played
> > the
> > first movement of the Tchaikovsky 1st. A friend of mine had worked with
> > Van, so
> > we sent him a copy of the broadcast. His secretary played it for him, not
> > telling him who was playing. Van thought the playing was so so, but when
> he
> > found out it was him, he supposedly responded with something like, "not
> > bad for
> > a kid!"
> >
> > Having collected some of his live performances on my own, I have several
> > from
> > Japan, as well as performances with the Boston Symphony under both
> > Leinsdorf and
> > Munch...as well as some Ormandy things.
> >
> > My own piano teacher was a friend of Van's. They both studied with "Rosy"
> > Lhevinne at Juilliard at the same time. Van paid for my teacher's
> Carnegie
> > debut
> > and also help fund a CD we released of that Carnegie debut. My teacher,
> > James
> > Mathis, used to say that "Van played pretty." And indeed, he did.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Thu, February 28, 2013 1:24:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> >
> > I got my Cliburn box set last week also. But I have always been more
> > interested in his Russian recordings. When I went to Moscow in 1995,
> > one of the records on my want list was the LP of the 1958 winners which
> > included the track of Van Cliburn winning the true hearts of the Soviets
> > by playing as a totally unexpected encore, "Moscow Nights". This
> > actually was a new song then, written in 1957, but already it was deeply
> > loved by Muscovites and the rest of the Russians. It actually is not a
> > city song, it is about an evening in the Moscow Countryside. It had not
> > yet been turned into a jazzy number by Britisher Kenny Ball, it was
> > still just a sweetly sentimental treat. You can hear the sigh of the
> > audience when they realize what he is playing, just before they applaud.
> > I didn't find that record (I understand it is fairly common here in the
> > U.S.) but what I did get in a record department in Dom Knigi (House of
> > Books) on Novy Arbat was a 10-inch 78 which is a studio recording made a
> > few days later and I believe has never been reissued anywhere: 30573.
> >
> > There is a video on youtube of Cliburn playing that unannounced encore.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1vZWJT-XGw
> >
> > There is another very interesting documentary about the song, narrated i
> > Russian, which includes a section where Cliburn SINGS the song in
> > Russian, at 4:11 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duCEV-2yaow
> >
> > The label picture of the Cliburn 78 is here:
> >
> >
> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/313317_10200205544653611_1461872688_n.jpg
> >g
> >
> >
> > I also have some label pictures of 3 different copies of the original
> > recording of the song by Vladimir Troshin. A 78 with the label in
> > English, and note the song is titled "Moscow Suburbian Evenings" 27620.
> >
> >
> >
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/374533_10200205915062871_900693098_n.jpg
> >g
> >
> >
> > Another 78 with the usual Russian language label:
> >
> >
> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577169_10200205926423155_744555079_n.jpg
> >g
> >
> >
> > and a very unusual 6-inch 33 1/3 microgroove copy with an English
> > language label with the MK logo, D-6311. MK was the export organization
> > for books (the name means International Books), records, and philatelic
> > stamps. I have a feeling this was sold to tourists in the Beriozka hard
> > currency stores. This copy also includes the beautiful 45 second choral
> > introduction which is cut off of the 10-inch 78s. They should have put
> > it out on a 12-inch 78, bit I have no evidence they ever did.
> >
> >
> >
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/421884_10200205933703337_1314941769_n.jpg
> >g
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482560_10200205940103497_135712526_n.jpg
> >g
> >
> >
> > Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> > From: Roderic G Stephens <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 10:21 pm
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > In my case, the irony of Van Cliburn's passing is heightened by my
> > receiving today these two RCA "Living Stereo" SACD's, Tchaikovsky: Piano
> > Concerto No. 1; Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 2 [Hybrid SACD]
> > Schumann: Piano Concerto in A Minor / Beethoven: Emperor Concerto ~
> > Cliburn. I'd ordered them from Amazon last week for a very reasonable
> > price. Stuart, these SACD's DO combine two "albums" on each CD, so if
> > you hadn't already bought the box set, these might have been perfect for
> > you, although you might have only played the stereo layer if you don't
> > have a 5.1 or 7.1 discrete audio setup/player. I'm looking forward to
> > paying homage to Mr. Cliburn as I play them in my studio/den. They cost
> > me approximately $5.20 per concerto, since there are two concertos on
> > each disk plus free shipping with the third SACD of Richard Strauss:
> > Symphonia Domestica [Hybrid SACD]. I also already have his Rachmanioff
> > #3 on a reel to reel tape, but that recording
> > lacks the clarity and sound field of his other RCA's; it's very close
> > miked and off balance to the right. So, I was surprised when I found
> > that people were asking about $60 for the remastered version, although
> > it does include the Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 which I imagine is
> > probably quite different, sonically. I'm listening to the Tchaikovsky as
> > I type this, and it is truly wonderful, so I'm very pleased to honor his
> > memory tonight; he was/is an amazing part of our musical history, and
> > thanks to the remasterings, still with us in more than spirit! To
> > paraphrase Stewart, The sets are a fitting farewell to a great artist
> > and American.
> >
> > DrG
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Stewart Gooderman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Stewart Gooderman <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 10:48 AM
> >
> > I just received the Cliburn boxed set about a week ago. Listening to
> > about 60% of it so far, the sound is amazingly good, especially the
> > earliest issues and the later solo piano recordings.
> >
> > The idea was to replicate the Lp's and this they have done very well,
> > even mimicking the labels on the CDs. However, some of these recordings
> > are very short and I think I would have liked some of the albums to have
> > been combined on one CD, making the set take up less room.
> >
> > The set is a fitting farewell to a great artist and American.
> >
> > DrG
> >
> > DrG
> >
> >
> > On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Cary Ginell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2013/02/27/van-cliburn-american-classical-pianist-dies/1951217/
> >/
> > >/
> > > Cary Ginell
> >
>
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