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Re: Van Cliburn dies

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Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 28 Feb 2013 05:07:19 -0700

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I have a bunch of those "torch" label Van Cliburn records.These are all concert recordings,that may have been pressed in the early 60s.Liszt,Rachmaninov,and Tchaikovsky.I also have a vinyl 78.I think they may be kind of common in Russia,but they don't  turn up much in the US.I know they have been collected on both CD and DVD
 Roger> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:14:25 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> I got my Cliburn box set last week also.  But I have always been more
> interested in his Russian recordings.  When I went to Moscow in 1995,
> one of the records on my want list was the LP of the 1958 winners which
> included the track of Van Cliburn winning the true hearts of the Soviets
> by playing as a totally unexpected encore, "Moscow Nights". This
> actually was a new song then, written in 1957, but already it was deeply
> loved by Muscovites and the rest of the Russians. It actually is not a
> city song, it is about an evening in the Moscow Countryside. It had not
> yet been turned into a jazzy number by Britisher Kenny Ball, it was
> still just a sweetly sentimental treat. You can hear the sigh of the
> audience when they realize what he is playing, just before they applaud.
>  I didn't find that record (I understand it is fairly common here in the
> U.S.) but what I did get in a record department in Dom Knigi (House of
> Books) on Novy Arbat was a 10-inch 78 which is a studio recording made a
> few days later and I believe has never been reissued anywhere: 30573. 
> 
> There is a video on youtube of Cliburn playing that unannounced encore.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1vZWJT-XGw
> 
> There is another very interesting documentary about the song, narrated i
>  Russian, which includes a section where Cliburn SINGS the song in
> Russian, at 4:11 in.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duCEV-2yaow 
> 
> The label picture of the Cliburn 78 is here:  
> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/313317_10200205544653611_1461872688_n.jpg
> 
> I also have some label pictures of 3 different copies of the original
> recording of the song by Vladimir Troshin.  A 78 with the label in
> English, and note the song is titled "Moscow Suburbian Evenings" 27620. 
> 
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/374533_10200205915062871_900693098_n.jpg
> 
> Another 78 with the usual Russian language label:
> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577169_10200205926423155_744555079_n.jpg
> 
> and a very unusual 6-inch 33 1/3 microgroove copy with an English
> language label with the MK logo, D-6311.  MK was the export organization
> for books (the name means International Books), records, and philatelic
> stamps.  I have a feeling this was sold to tourists in the Beriozka hard
> currency stores.  This copy also includes the beautiful 45 second choral
> introduction which is cut off of the 10-inch 78s.  They should have put
> it out on a 12-inch 78, bit I have no evidence they ever did.
> 
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/421884_10200205933703337_1314941769_n.jpg
> 
> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482560_10200205940103497_135712526_n.jpg
> 
> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]  
>  
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> From: Roderic G Stephens <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 10:21 pm
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> In my case, the irony of Van Cliburn's passing is heightened by my
> receiving today these two RCA "Living Stereo" SACD's, Tchaikovsky: Piano
> Concerto No. 1; Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 2 [Hybrid SACD]
> Schumann: Piano Concerto in A Minor / Beethoven: Emperor Concerto ~
> Cliburn.  I'd ordered them from Amazon last week for a very reasonable
> price.  Stuart, these SACD's DO combine two "albums" on each CD, so if
> you hadn't already bought the box set, these might have been perfect for
> you, although you might have only played the stereo layer if you don't
> have a 5.1 or 7.1 discrete audio setup/player.  I'm looking forward to
> paying homage to Mr. Cliburn as I play them in my studio/den.  They cost
> me approximately $5.20 per concerto, since there are two concertos on
> each disk plus free shipping with the third SACD of Richard Strauss:
> Symphonia Domestica [Hybrid SACD]. I also already have his Rachmanioff
> #3 on a reel to reel tape, but that recording
>  lacks the clarity and sound field of his other RCA's; it's very close
> miked and off balance to the right. So, I was surprised when I found
> that people were asking about $60 for the remastered version, although
> it does include the Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 3 which I imagine is
> probably quite different, sonically. I'm listening to the Tchaikovsky as
> I type this, and it is truly wonderful, so I'm very pleased to honor his
> memory tonight; he was/is an amazing part of our musical history, and
> thanks to the remasterings, still with us in more than spirit! To
> paraphrase Stewart, The sets are a fitting farewell to a great artist
> and American.
> 
> DrG
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Stewart Gooderman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> From: Stewart Gooderman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Van Cliburn dies
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 10:48 AM
> 
> I just received the Cliburn boxed set about a week ago. Listening to
> about 60% of it so far, the sound is amazingly good, especially the
> earliest issues and the later solo piano recordings.
> 
> The idea was to replicate the Lp's and this they have done very well,
> even mimicking the labels on the CDs. However, some of these recordings
> are very short and I think I would have liked some of the albums to have
> been combined on one CD, making the set take up less room. 
> 
> The set is a fitting farewell to a great artist and American.
> 
> DrG
> 
> DrG
> 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Cary Ginell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2013/02/27/van-cliburn-american-classical-pianist-dies/1951217/
> > Cary Ginell
 		 	   		  

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