Dear Alan Carrier,

The lacquer that you have is not a broadcast document but rather a dub of
commercial material made on the dates cited. Toscanini never performed nor
recorded the GAYNE ballet music. The Beethoven Seventh with the NYPO is
probably a dub of a portion of the commercially released 78s or perhaps
taken from a broadcast of same.

DDR.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM, HistorischeAufnahmen <
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> I ought to have been more clear ... I meant to say I could not locate the
> date or concert in the NYPhil archives. I have a sneaking suspicion this
> might be the NBC SO but cannot locate a performance listing of them.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iphone so please
>  ascribe typos to autocorrect.
>
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:19 PM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Alan,
> >
> > This is an easy one.  Just go to:
> >
> > http://archives.nyphil.org/
> >
> > and search for dates, whatever.  The New York Philharmonic has done a
> great
> > job of posting their historical data.  In many cases you can pull up the
> > actual paper programs for their concerts.  It's a wealth of info for
> free,
> > and more accurate than the several books that contain similar info.
> >
> > John Haley
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Randy A. Riddle <[log in to unmask]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I checked two sites.
> >>
> >> JJ's Radio logs has original radio schedules from different newspapers
> >> of the period.  On those two dates, I didn't see these pieces or the
> >> NY Phil mentioned specifically, but you might double-check all the
> >> papers there for the dates since I might have missed something.
> >>
> >> Goldin's site - http://www.radiogoldindex.com/ - is a listing of radio
> >> programs in circulation among collectors and some not in circulation.
> >> Neither date there turned up an existing broadcast by Toscanini, but
> >> that doesn't mean there wasn't one on either of those dates.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Historische Aufnahmen
> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am a long-time lurker on this site, learning much from all of your
> >>>> posts.  I have a bit of a mystery I think/hope you all may be able to
> >> solve.
> >>>>
> >>>> I purchased an acetate at a used record shop.  The label says it is an
> >>>> "audiodisc recording blank, recorded at 78 rpm - 33 rpm outside in -
> >> inside
> >>>> out"
> >>>>
> >>>> Handwritten on the first side " (A portion of) Beethoven Seventh
> >> Symphony
> >>>> in A Mjor, NY PHilharmonic, Toscanini. 9/26/47" and on the second
> side,
> >>>> "Gayne Suite for Ballet , Katchaturian Saber Dance 10/2/47"
> >>>>
> >>>> The Toscanini-attributed side is a large portion of the 2nd movement
> adn
> >>>> it does indeed play inside out at 78 rpm.  Someone speaks before the
> >> start
> >>>> of the Kachaturian but beats me what they say.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I have not been able to locate the NY Philharmonic performance
> >> dates,
> >>>> so I don't know if this is a broadcast or re-recording of a commercial
> >> 78.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas where I might find more info?
> >>> Many Thanks for all of your many many post which have taught much about
> >>> records, recordings, and music.
> >>>
> >>> All best,
> >>> Alan Carrier
> >>> Seattle
> >>
>



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