Related to this original thread, here is the National Endowment for the Arts (ie the taxpayers'
dime) curriculum for jazz in the schools:
This would be The Canon as far as public education is concerned.
Look at Lessons 3-5. Where is ANYTHING about soul-jazz or acid-jazz? There sure is a lot about
free-jazz, yet no mention of how few copies most of those recordings sold because they were
unfriendly and inaccessible to the casual listener. There's a brief mention of Latin-jazz (which was
HUGE as far as cultural impact and record sales), mentioning only Stan Getz. There's not much of
anything about fusion (probably a safe bet that Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra and Herbie
Hancock sold thousands or millions more records than all the free-jazz albums combined) and nothing
about the success of smooth-jazz.
So the taxpayers' dime seems to have been spent to adopt the Ken Burns view of jazz. Great stuff!
-- Tom Fine
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Check out Randy's performance on "Some of These Days."
On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Carl Pultz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks Cary - I have not heard him. BTW, I haven't kept up with Wynton's
> work, but the band he had on NPR for last New Year's Eve was smokin'! And
> was mostly about exploring trad space. I loved it. It would be worth the
> time to read the Burns interview text. Wynton might have gone out on a limb,
> but the form and nature of a broadcast documentary just can't be relied on
> to reflect the nuance of complex meanings. I take that as an absolute rule.
> But, I think television is a tragedy even when it isn't being a travesty.
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> Randy Sandke, incidentally, is a wonderful trumpet/cornet player who is a
> huge Bix fan. I believe he's sat in with Vince Giordano on more than one
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:16 AM, "Carl Pultz" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Fascinating discussion - thank you, all.
>> I recommend a book I recently read: "Where the Dark and the Light
>> Meet: Race and the Mythology, Politics, and Business of Jazz" by
>> Randall Sandke. As with any study of such a complex subject, it should
>> not represent a definitive or final judgment on the history of the
>> music. It does reflect the experience of musicians I've known, for
>> whom the late 60s and early 70s were a heart-breaking time of
>> exclusion and distrust. It gets at some very uncomfortable things.
>> The research also makes the Burns series dominant model of two racial
>> tracks, parallel but isolated, appear that much more absurd. But, it
>> is PBS and it is KEN BURNS, both brands that have a lot invested in
>> mainstream consensus and pretty pictures and golden memories,
>> calculated to liberate the check-books of "viewers like you."