This is a guess, but there is decent evidence indicating that they are
Columbia masters. Tim Brooks's appendix to his and Brian Rust's
Columbia discography notes that master numbers 16000-16999 were made
between 1908 and 1915 and were assigned to 12-inch "Trails
[auditions], specials, personal." In Victor-land, where I used to
spend most of my time, "personal" means commissioned by a third party
and not intended for release by the record company.
It's possible that a date can be found in the Sony Music archives in
NYC. Due to limited resources I don't think that they answer public
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Eric Hollis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Apologies for cross-posting. I sent this question to the 78-L list also.
> Dear ARSC:
> I have a series of 12" records that I would like to date. I believe that
> they were made in 1913 or 1914. I have matrix numbers, but the manufacturer
> is not listed on the label.
> To be most accurate, I think that the numbers below are matrix
> numbers....the number printed on the label and the number inscribed on the
> disc match. Etched on the disc, there is an additional number, separated
> from the other number by a hyphen, which I believe to be the "take", i.e.
> Is there a discography that would tell me the manufacturer, the age, and
> hopefully the recording dates, of these discs?
> Matrix 16532 - 16579
> Matrix 16682 - 16685
> These are a series of recorded lectures entitled "The Photo-Drama of
> Any help would be most appreciated.
> Eric Hollis