One reissue label I know found their (vinyl-only) albums being sold through
as downloads through Amazon by a third-party seller with no affiliation to
the label and no permission to do this. Maybe these kinds of sellers claim
they have the license, but I don't think Amazon verifies this. Amazon only
removed the albums when the label filed a complaint.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> I might have mentioned this previously, but Amazon also puts all the tunes
> you've purchased into availability for the Cloud Player. I was really
> impressed at what they put in my Cloud library, stuff I had ordered a
> decade ago and farther back. Thousands of tunes. It turns out to be a great
> app when I'm stuck someplace with wifi like a doctor's office or an
> airport, and it's unbeatable for hotels and the like. It was also great
> recently when I was visiting a friend and we got to talking about some
> music he hadn't heard before. I remembered it was in my Amazon Cloud
> library so we just plugged my iPad into the stereo and streamed the tunes.
> I don't do the "smartphone" thing, but if you have an iPhone, all of that
> can fly from the cloud thru your cell network, so it's available anywhere.
> Apple has a similar thing but I've bought way more music from Amazon.
> Bottom line, I think the record companies have pretty much cried uncle
> with the big retailers. They're so desperate to get revenues, they're not
> going to fight the likes of Amazon and Apple. The irony is, the Amazon
> Cloud Player is almost identical to what MP3.com got sued out of business
> about. The MP3.com model was, you inserted a CD into your computer and
> MP3.com would then make available to you those tunes, pre-ripped. I never
> saw the sense of it but some people didn't have the geek skills to rip CD
> to MP3 back in those days. I think the wrinkle with Amazon and Apple cloud
> players is the streaming, but I don't see how it's any different since both
> seem to be fair use of a CD you've bought.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Auto rip
> What's important about this is that it's being offered through Amazon.
>> As a seller on Amazon, I'm aware of how tightly run a ship it is from a
>> legal standpoint.
>> The implication is that what some of us have been doing has made it past
>> their legal team- if a customer owns it, even if it's just been purchased
>> and still on the seller's premises, that it is legal to make a copy of
>> is now his recording for him.
>> Steve Smolian
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>] On
>> Behalf Of Roger Kulp
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 10:11 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Auto rip
>> It's nothing new.For a number of years now,labels or artists themselves
>> been including free download codes inside of vinyl records. Roger > Date:
>> Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:34:37 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject:
>> [ARSCLIST] Auto rip> To: [log in to unmask]> > Has anyone noticed
>> that Amazon now offers MP3 files free if you buy certain vinyl LPs? It's
>> called "autorip." (sounds like a chopshop.) > > Steve Smolian