Dear Francis,
Yes, specifying whether data in a given element is recorded or transcribed (or a one or two other designations) is necessary, is certainly within the scope of BIBFRAME, and will have to be accommodated.
In fact, one of the proposed solutions to this issue, posted on this listserv, made its way into the very recently published Use Cases and Requirements document. See 5.3 under section 5 at
http://bibframe.org/documentation/bibframe-usecases/#openissues
We still need to work up a few use cases to support the proposal as well as explore the full scope of what's needed, but do consider this a start.
Did the community have further thoughts about Jörg's proposal? [1]
Yours,
Kevin
[1] http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1307&L=BIBFRAME&P=R4335&I=-3&X=2845C01B99123B796B
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> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
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> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] supplied information, in transcribed elements
>
> In July, I posted to the present list to ask if there were any plans to
> introduce a mechanism in BIBFRAME that would allow us to specify
> whether the data in a given element is recorded or transcribed. While
> the ensuing discussion was quite interesting, we never received a
> response from anyone directly involved in BIBFRAME development.
>
> May I ask the same question again, with the hopes that someone involved
> with BIBFRAME may assert whether or not such a feature would be within
> the scope of BIBFRAME development?
>
> Thanks,
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] supplied information, in transcribed elements
>
> Alan,
>
> Thanks. Then we'd need a use case for distinguishing between recorded
> and transcribed, or between recorded and supplied, which we do not
> separately code today. The only "coded" source is "supplied." I suspect
> that in many current catalog records it is not possible to know if
> certain elements are recorded or are transcribed, right? It seems to be
> an assumption made based on the nature of the data element (e.g.
> publisher).
>
> I'd suggest that transliteration be noted similar to language, using a
> code on the element. It would be ideal to know WHICH transliteration
> was used, but I don't think our data can supply that.
>
> kc
> On 7/5/13 8:13 AM, Danskin, Alan wrote:
> Karen,
>
> Information in the resource may be recorded without being transcribed,
> for example date of publication (2.8.6.3), copyright date, extent.
> There are at least three categories:
>
> transcribed
> recorded
> supplied
>
> some information may also be transliterated, so that may be a fourth
> category.
>
> Alan
> ________________________________________
> From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
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> Sent: 05 July 2013 15:44
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> Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] supplied information, in transcribed elements
> Francis, et al,
>
> I've been wondering if we shouldn't reverse the markup, and indicate
> which elements are precisely transcribed. In effect, everything else is
> supplied.
>
> kc
> On 7/3/13 9:36 AM, Lapka, Francis wrote:
> RDA 2.2.4, Other Sources of Information, notes:
> When instructions specify transcription, indicate that the information
> is supplied from a source outside the resource itself:
> 1. <!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->By means of a note (see 2.20)
> 2. <!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Or by some other means (e.g.,
> through coding or the use of square brackets).
> If encoding RDA in MARC, square brackets appear to be the only option
> for “some other means.” In the development of BIBFRAME, are there
> plans to enable an encoding to indicate that information has been
> supplied?
> MODS has already developed this attribute. See, for example, the
> titleInfo element, for which the “supplied” attribute is defined as
> follows:
> Definition
> An indication that the title information did not come from the resource
> itself.
> Application
> This attribute is used as supplied="yes" when the title information has
> been supplied from an external source, not from the resource.
> MODS also defines the “supplied” attribute for originInfo/place,
> originInfo/publisher, originInfo/edition, and
> physicalDescription/extent.
> Something equivalent in BIBFRAME might be useful for encoding any RDA
> transcribed element (as listed in RDA 2.2.4).
> Francis
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