Adam,

Yes there are 2 $c's... Linked headings made the automatic change. The system I use doesn't care about whether there are 2 $c's and I don't see that it hurts patron access... (although it is redundant). Our links/clicking might actually be better if I leave it alone and don't make any changes.

In the interest of doing less RDA busy work (something that is really beginning to bother me and my health--arms, hands, etc.), I'll leave them alone for now.

Thanks...

Mary Charles




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Mary Charles,

I'm wondering how your headings are coded, since the place in the ongoing conference authority record is (correctly) in subfield $c. Subfield $c is not repeatable in field 111 so the following would not be correct:

111 2_ International Architectural Exhibition $c (Venice, Italy) $n (11th : $d 2008 : $c Venice, Italy)

I'd suggest removing the first qualifier in your headings so that they are correctly formulated.

Adam

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Lasater, Mary Charles wrote:

> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:01:54 +0000
> From: "Lasater, Mary Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
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> Subject: Re: RDA Conference authority question
> 
> Adam,
>
> Thanks. I'll leave our headings alone and hope that the proposal will be approved.
>
> Mary Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] RDA Conference authority question
>
> The change to the AACR2 ongoing conference authorized access point was correct in RDA.  At the present time, RDA says not to include the place in the access point for a series of ongoing conferences UNLESS they were all held in the same place.  In that case, the place IS added to the AAP.  There is, however, a proposal that the JSC will consider in November that will change the instruction so that the place is always omitted from the access point for the ongoing conference.
>
> Adam Schiff
>
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Lasater, Mary Charles wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 20:37:09 +0000
>> From: "Lasater, Mary Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: RDA Conference authority question
>>
>>
>> I'm looking over a list of last month's modified authority records.
>> I've run into: n  85057075 International Architectural Exhibition $C (Venice, Italy) Individual conference nar's on OCLC show:
>>
>> International Architectural Exhibition  (6th :  1996 : Venice, Italy)
>>
>> International Architectural Exhibition  (3rd :  1985 : Venice, Italy)
>>
>> And
>>
>> International Architectural Exhibition (13th :  2012 :  Venice, 
>> Italy)
>>
>> Because all of our headings were linked to the first NAR our headings are now:
>>
>> International Architectural Exhibition (Venice, Italy) (11th : 2008 :
>> Venice, Italy) International Architectural Exhibition (Venice, Italy) 
>> (12th : 2010 : Venice, Italy) Etc.
>>
>> I'm caught in a 'catch 22' since if I change our bibs to be like the individual authority records, most will no longer have authority records that match and link.    So I need to know if what I see on OCLC is what I can expect to see for this type of 'ongoing' conference or if this is, by chance, a 'mistake'.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance,
>>
>> Mary Charles Lasater
>> Vanderbilt University
>>
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