What about "convening body"? Doesn't quite Don't think it quite gets it
either, Kristin Lindlan
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Layne, Sara wrote:
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> Yes, but ... I don't think 'compiler' captures what is really most important
> about the relationship of the conference to these works/expressions, which
> is that the conference is responsible for initiating the *creation* of the
> data that is then being compiled.
>
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>
> Sara Shatford Layne
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> "Compiler" is defined in Appendix I.2.1 as "A person, family, or corporate
> body responsible for creating a new work (e.g., a bibliography, a directory)
> by selecting, arranging, aggregating, and editing data, information, etc.
> For a compiler as a contributor, see editor of compilation."
> If the conference event itself and the published proceedings and a video
> record of the event are all considered expressions of the content which the
> conference created as a work, it's not too much of a stretch to consider the
> conference as selecting, arranging, and aggregating the work's content. The
> person who whips the proceedings into shape for publication would be "editor
> of compilation" leaving credit for compiling the work to the conference
> itself.
>
> Stephen
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>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Melanie Shaw <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> "Compiler of proceedings" would not work well with other
> publications authored by conferences, such as official programs,
> and abstracts of sessions, to name just a few I've had to deal
> with recently.
>
> Melanie Shaw
> Cataloger
> Utah State University
> Merrill-Cazier Library
> Logan, Utah 84322
> melanie.shaw
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>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Layne, Sara <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> Interesting suggestion, but ... "Compiler of proceedings"
> sounds (to me) like a description of an editor who
> assembled the papers from the conference into a
> publication, not a description of the corporate entity
> (the conference) that caused the papers to be generated in
> the first place.
>
> Sara Shatford Layne
> Recently Retired from the UCLA Library
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> Compiler of proceedings.
>
> Adolfo
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> conference
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> Some people are using "author" for conferences, but I
> agree that's not ideal. The PCC Guidelines allow us to
> use the element name, so one could use "creator". If we
> were to create a new designator specifically for
> conferences, what would you call it?
>
> Adam Schiff
> University of Washington Libraries
>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, Kevin M Randall wrote:
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> > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:11:54 +0000
> > From: Kevin M Randall <[log in to unmask]>
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> > Subject: Re: relationship designator for conference
> >
> > RDA 19.2.1.1.1 says that a conference is considered to
> be the creator of a work that reports the collective
> activity of that conference. RDA 6.27.1.2 then says that
> the name of the conference is used as the first part of
> the authorized access point. Thus the name of the
> conference would go into MARC field 110/111. As for
> relationship designators, they would have to come from RDA
> I.2.1, and currently there are no terms in that list that
> are appropriate. It would be best to omit a relationship
> designator instead of applying one that is incorrect.
> (Note that "sponsoring body" and "issuing body" are in
> RDA I.2.2, and are not appropriate for use with creators.)
> I'm not sure if anyone has proposed a new relationship
> designator for conferences considered to be creators, but
> I think it would be a good idea!
> >
> > Kevin M. Randall
> > Principal Serials Cataloger
> > Northwestern University Library
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> > From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging
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> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:46 AM
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> > Subject: [PCCLIST] relationship designator for
> conference
> >
> > According to the PCC guidelines for relationship
> designators, we are supposed to be adding a relationship
> designator to access points for creators, and are
> strongly encouraged to do so for all access points. But
> what about conferences? None of the examples in the
> guidelines are for conferences, just people. Are
> conferences "creators"?
> >
> > We haven't seen many relationship designators for
> conferences at all, whether they are in a 111 or 711. In
> an OCLC search of recent (2012-2013) RDA records with
> conference headings, I found NLM is consistently using the
> relationship designator, but LC and other PCC libraries
> are (apparently) not doing so. Some of these records were
> created in July 2013, after the guidelines were released,
> so should we use them for conferences or not? If we do,
> what do we call them? Author? Sponsoring body? Issuing
> body?
> >
> > Your insights will be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Becky
> >
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