Yes, we knew that. 150 years ago the parties were in different places; Lincoln was in favor of the government building roads, canals and so on. In 1932 (long before I was born) they switched around. Thanks for the history lesson (yawn).
Donald Clarke
On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:31 AM, James Roth wrote:
Wow, we're getting political (aren't we?) on the ARSC list.
Never thought THAT would happen!
Would it be political to state an historical fact?
Such as: the Republican party was founded by Abolitionists while the [southern] Dems wanted to keep the Jim Crow law[s] they created?
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
End of history lesson..... for what it's worth.
Ben
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] FW: John Powell
I've been away.
Interesting. Evidently in 1964 the Southern Dems were true to themselves, and in those days, let us remember, there were still "liberal" Republicans, now an extinct species. Nevertheless, LBJ said to Martin Luther King as he signed the civil rights bill that what they were doing was handing the South to the Republicans, and so it proved.
Donald Clarke
On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Clark Johnsen wrote:
Yes this should be over, but regarding "the national Democratic party passed the landmark civil rights legislation of the 1960s", the fact is that 80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill while only 66% of Democrats did. Again, just sayin'.
clark
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Donald Clarke <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Everybody knows the southern Democrats took racist attitudes.
> Everybody knows that as soon as the national Democratic party passed
> the landmark civil rights legislation of the 1960s, the south turned
> Republican. What's to discuss?
>
> Donald Clarke
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:48 PM, Clark Johnsen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:22 PM, HistorischeAufnahmen <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes but the "left" abandoned these racial attitudes before the
>>> Second World War and the "right" has made them the centerpiece of
>>> their program today.
>>>
>>
>> John Powell for all his life was a Democrat. Sen. Robert Byrd (D)
>> rose
> to a
>> high position in that party yet was throughout WWII a Grand Kleagle.
>> Byrd even refused to join the military because he might have to serve
> alongside
>> "race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
>> As recently as 2005, in his memoir, Byrd describes the KKK as a
>> fraternal assembly of "upstanding people". He was the only senator to
>> vote against both African-American Supreme Court nominees Thurgood
>> Marshall and
> Clarence
>> Thomas.
>>
>> Who on "the right" or even in the Republican party can boast such a
> record?
>> Just sayin'.
>>
>> clark
>>
>>
>>
>>> Alan Carrier
>>>
>>> Sent from my iphone so please
>>> ascribe typos to autocorrect.
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, "L. Hunter Kevil" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just a comment about John Powell as a "right-wing" racialist agitator.
> In
>>>> fact the eugenics movement of the early part of the last century -
>>>> the
>>> root
>>>> of this racial madness - was created and developed by progressives
>>>> such
>>> as
>>>> Margaret Sanger, Woodrow Wilson, and others. Their ideas and laws
>>>> were opposed by conservatives, particularly Christian ones. The
>>>> left often
>>> tries
>>>> to conceal its parentage.
>>>>
>>>> L. H. Kevil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In general the collectability of anything classical has declined
>>> sharply in
>>>>> the past decade. Powell, however, has been generally forgotten,
>>>>> and those who are aware of who he is are
> also
>>>>> aware of his activities as an extreme right-wing agitator. So top
>>>>> dollar might be out of the question these
>>> days;
>>>>> maybe settle for an offer made by someone who wants them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Lewis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Steven Smolian
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Steve Smolian [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:49 AM
>>>>>> To: Smolian
>>>>>> Subject: John Powell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just obtained copies of two privately made John Powell 78
>>>>>> sets- Mozart Ssonata , K. 311 (4s) and 3 pieces by Powell (3 12"
>>>>>> 78s) and Schumann
>>> 's
>>>>>> Humoresque . op. 20 (4 78s) . He was a Lescheizky pupil, highly
>>> praised,
>>>>>> and an American composer well known during his lifetime
>>>>>> (1882-1963)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These were once considered among the most collectible of U.S.
>>>>>> piano records.
>>>>>> In the past, I've sold each set at a price in the lower four figures.
>>>>> I've
>>>>>> not heard them mentioned in years. I couldn't find them in Popsike
>>> Are
>>>>>> they still so highly regarded or has time applied the soft pedal
>>>>>> to
>>> their
>>>>>> reputation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll consider offers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Smolian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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