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Re: Columbia ionic column jackets

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James Roth <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:04:16 +0000

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Good morning, Steve,

Working at a library that collects classical and Jazz LPs, I like to have catalogues for reference.
I have the book "NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC ~ The Authorized Recordings ~ 1917-2005" by James North.
It has the ionic columns on the front cover.  It's a great book, but it only has NYPH Columbia recordings listed.
I was hoping to find a complete catalogue of all Columbia classical and Jazz [especially classical] LPs, but that might be impossible.
Might such a listing be available somewhere on the Internet?

Thank you.

Regards,
Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:16 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets

 Sorry for the confusion.

I have most of these supplements in my own collection as well as the dealer magazine from 1948 and 1949.  What is it you wish to know?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Roth
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:28 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets

Hi Steve,

My full name is James Benjamin Roth, but I sign 'Ben'.
I work at Florida Atlantic University in the Recorded Sound Archives.
http://www.library.fau.edu/depts/spc/spc/soundarchives.htm

Regards,
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets

Who is Ben?   

Steve Smolian

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Roth
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:40 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets

Good morning, All

Does anyone have The Masterworks monthly supplements?
Would it be possible to get copies?
We are collecting that series of Columbia LPs as well as other series and other labels.

Regards,
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Burnham
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets

The album covers for the blue 78s that Columbia issued around 1930 look far more like a tomb stones than anything from the LP era. 

db
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> 
> The tombstone (aka Ionic column) cover  with a top flap was the first. 
> The other styles cited all followed within the first year of adoption. 
> The Masterworks monthly supplements are helpful in noting the progression.
> 
> DDR
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>> 
>> The tombstone cover evolution is important because it helps establish 
>> the record's edition- particularly useful dealing with the first
commercial LPs
>> worldwide with a 1 mil groove for public distribution.    The other cover
>> designs bring up issues of graphic design choices which is a whole 
>> other study but a sideshow from a  historical perspective.
>> 
>> Columbia's marketing department decided on a uniform style LP cover 
>> even after they had been using pictorial covers on 78 sets  and 
>> replaced covers for some plain ones on catalog 78 sets going back to 
>> the
early 1940s.
>> 
>> When looked at from the perspective of a few hundred years in the 
>> future, I feel certain data to establish true firsts of this 
>> culturally altering technology worldwide will be much more important.
>> 
>> Many of us stand in time to the LP as Gutenburg's contemporaries did in
>> relation to moveable type.   We're a bit late but it's still the best
time
>> to get this data assembled.
>> 
>> Steve Smolian
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Stern
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:04 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>> 
>> I see another early jacket design - contains a color circle with  Lp 
>> in it. The upper right corner of the jacket has an illustration, 
>> small square.
>> 
>> Thomas.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>> Behalf Of Thomas Stern
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:57 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>> 
>> 
>> There seem to be 2 distinct styles of PRE-illustrated jackets - the 
>> ionic column (is this what is referred to as tombstone??), and a 
>> music stand (any phrase connected to this???)???  There is also a 
>> THIRD simple jacket, which consists of 3 blocks of color 
>> (rectangular/trapezoidal shapes), but they have simple ornaments or 
>> line drawings.
>> Were there any others?  Any date ranges for them, or information on 
>> how they were chosen for a particular album???
>> Thanks!  Thomas.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>> Behalf Of Thomas Stern
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:41 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone know what catalog numbers mark the end/start of each state ???
>> i.e. ML xxxx initially issued in state N, not in any previous state.
>> Thanks!
>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Smolian
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:01 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>> 
>> 
>> There are, however, various states:
>> 
>> Paper, with top flap
>> Paper, with the top flap trimmed off
>> Possibly: Paper, with no flap to be trimmed off
>> 
>> Cardboard, opening at the top
>> Cardboard, opening at the side
>> 
>> Steve Smolian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Rooney
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:37 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>> 
>> The "Tombstone" covers appeared randomly and were primarily 
>> red,green,blue and yellow.
>> 
>> DDR
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there anyway to tell which of the IONIC Column design jackets is 
>> the
>>> FIRST printing.  There are
>>> examples of these jackets in different colors - was any particular 
>>> color always used first or does it vary from release to release ???
>>> Are there any markings indicating initial or reprint ??  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Delray Beach, FL 33483
>> 212.874.9626
> 
> 
> 
> 
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