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Re: Columbia ionic column jackets

From:

Sam Brylawski <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:20:29 -0400

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The UCSB American Discography Project, an expansion of the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings, will include a Columbia-Victor LP discography on its website in a few months. Data was compiled by staff at the Sony Music Entertainment archives. Stay tuned.

Sam Brylawski

On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:04 AM, James Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Good morning, Steve,
> 
> Working at a library that collects classical and Jazz LPs, I like to have catalogues for reference.
> I have the book "NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC ~ The Authorized Recordings ~ 1917-2005" by James North.
> It has the ionic columns on the front cover.  It's a great book, but it only has NYPH Columbia recordings listed.
> I was hoping to find a complete catalogue of all Columbia classical and Jazz [especially classical] LPs, but that might be impossible.
> Might such a listing be available somewhere on the Internet?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Regards,
> Ben
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:16 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.
> 
> I have most of these supplements in my own collection as well as the dealer magazine from 1948 and 1949.  What is it you wish to know?
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Roth
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:28 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> My full name is James Benjamin Roth, but I sign 'Ben'.
> I work at Florida Atlantic University in the Recorded Sound Archives.
> http://www.library.fau.edu/depts/spc/spc/soundarchives.htm
> 
> Regards,
> Ben
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Smolian
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
> 
> Who is Ben?   
> 
> Steve Smolian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Roth
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:40 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
> 
> Good morning, All
> 
> Does anyone have The Masterworks monthly supplements?
> Would it be possible to get copies?
> We are collecting that series of Columbia LPs as well as other series and other labels.
> 
> Regards,
> Ben
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Burnham
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
> 
> The album covers for the blue 78s that Columbia issued around 1930 look far more like a tomb stones than anything from the LP era. 
> 
> db
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> The tombstone (aka Ionic column) cover  with a top flap was the first. 
>> The other styles cited all followed within the first year of adoption. 
>> The Masterworks monthly supplements are helpful in noting the progression.
>> 
>> DDR
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The tombstone cover evolution is important because it helps establish 
>>> the record's edition- particularly useful dealing with the first
> commercial LPs
>>> worldwide with a 1 mil groove for public distribution.    The other cover
>>> designs bring up issues of graphic design choices which is a whole 
>>> other study but a sideshow from a  historical perspective.
>>> 
>>> Columbia's marketing department decided on a uniform style LP cover 
>>> even after they had been using pictorial covers on 78 sets  and 
>>> replaced covers for some plain ones on catalog 78 sets going back to 
>>> the
> early 1940s.
>>> 
>>> When looked at from the perspective of a few hundred years in the 
>>> future, I feel certain data to establish true firsts of this 
>>> culturally altering technology worldwide will be much more important.
>>> 
>>> Many of us stand in time to the LP as Gutenburg's contemporaries did in
>>> relation to moveable type.   We're a bit late but it's still the best
> time
>>> to get this data assembled.
>>> 
>>> Steve Smolian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Stern
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:04 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>>> 
>>> I see another early jacket design - contains a color circle with  Lp 
>>> in it. The upper right corner of the jacket has an illustration, 
>>> small square.
>>> 
>>> Thomas.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>>> Behalf Of Thomas Stern
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:57 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There seem to be 2 distinct styles of PRE-illustrated jackets - the 
>>> ionic column (is this what is referred to as tombstone??), and a 
>>> music stand (any phrase connected to this???)???  There is also a 
>>> THIRD simple jacket, which consists of 3 blocks of color 
>>> (rectangular/trapezoidal shapes), but they have simple ornaments or 
>>> line drawings.
>>> Were there any others?  Any date ranges for them, or information on 
>>> how they were chosen for a particular album???
>>> Thanks!  Thomas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>>> Behalf Of Thomas Stern
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:41 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone know what catalog numbers mark the end/start of each state ???
>>> i.e. ML xxxx initially issued in state N, not in any previous state.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List 
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]**GOV <[log in to unmask]>]On 
>>> Behalf Of Steve Smolian
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:01 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are, however, various states:
>>> 
>>> Paper, with top flap
>>> Paper, with the top flap trimmed off
>>> Possibly: Paper, with no flap to be trimmed off
>>> 
>>> Cardboard, opening at the top
>>> Cardboard, opening at the side
>>> 
>>> Steve Smolian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Rooney
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:37 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Columbia ionic column jackets
>>> 
>>> The "Tombstone" covers appeared randomly and were primarily 
>>> red,green,blue and yellow.
>>> 
>>> DDR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there anyway to tell which of the IONIC Column design jackets is 
>>> the
>>>> FIRST printing.  There are
>>>> examples of these jackets in different colors - was any particular 
>>>> color always used first or does it vary from release to release ???
>>>> Are there any markings indicating initial or reprint ??  Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 1006 Langer Way
>>> Delray Beach, FL 33483
>>> 212.874.9626
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 1006 Langer Way
>> Delray Beach, FL 33483
>> 212.874.9626

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