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ARSCLIST November 2013

Subject:

Job opportunity

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"Place, Jeff" <[log in to unmask]>

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The Ralph Rinzler Folklife Archives and Collections are seeking an audio digitization contractor. The RFQ and Statement of Work can be found here:

http://media.smithsonianfolkways.org/docs/folklife/jobs/Audio-Digitization-Specialist.pdf


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There are 13 messages totalling 706 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info wanted (3)
  2. [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted
  3. Review of new Paramount Records "Box" (Literally, in a box) set
  4. Okay tekkie guys, we need you help! (5)
  5. Fwd: The NYPL Paramount Event iS geing archived on their You Tube Channel
  6. When stereo was young, West Coast style
  7. <No subject given>

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Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 00:17:18 -0500
From:    Carl Pultz <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info wanted

Whether there was a second one-disc reissue of the Shost 11 I don't = know, but it was re-remastered in 1994. I have it in the EMI box set The = Maverick Conductor. The last note does fade quickly, but is not cut off. = It sounds as if they had to avoid some noise right at the end of the = take. The recording has always had limited dynamic range, even for the = time. This newer version has more top than I recall from the first CD. I = gave that away years ago because it was so mediocre. I have never come = across it on Everest. They did end up with a good Shost 5 by Stoky, = which probably sold better than Capitol's property.

Speaking of Everest, I'm patiently awaiting Boult's VW 9. The absolute = gem of that catalog, IMHO.

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List = [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info = wanted

I've seen the stokie/Houston Shostakovich 11th on Everest, but never = bought it cause I had the Capitol box set. It looked like a late post = Belock release in a lousy pressing in a cheap box.

Eric Nagamine

----- Reply message -----
From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted
Date: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 2:56 PM


Hi Joe:

Good question! I looked in the booklets of the new Everest reissues and = it just says "Houston." I also re-checked part II of Lonn Henrichsen and = David Patmore's 2007 Everest profile in Classic Record Collector. No = info on the Houston recording site. Given that Everest didn't seem to be = ambitious in scouting new or different recording venues, my bet would be = that the same venue used by Capitol would have been used by Everest.

Stokowski also made some Everest records with the "Stadium Symphony = Orchestra," which was just NY Philharmonic players acting under a = different name so as not to violate the NYPO's recording contract. In = any case, those recordings were made at Manhattan Center, also used by = Columbia, RCA and Vanguard at various times.

By the way, Discogs and all of the other used LP websites show no = reissues of the Shostakovich 11th on Everest. There were reissues on = Capitol with a different cover, Seraphim (the budget reissue sub-label = of Angel in the US), Angel in Europe and Seraphim in the UK with a = different catalog number. The original Capitol 2LP set was in a box = rather than a gatefold cover and had a separate booklet. Nowhere in the = original-issue Capitol 2LP set that I own is there mention of the = recording location.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- From: "[log in to unmask]" = <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info = wanted


> Where were the Stokowski/Houston 35mm mag films recorded?
>
> joe salerno
>
> On 11/18/2013 4:46 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>> Hi Mark:
>>
>> Are you positive that it was the Capitol recording and not one of the 
>> =

>> several Everest recordings of Stoki and Houston? I suppose it's=20 
>> possible that Bernie Solomon was able to license the Shostakovich=20 
>> 11th from Capitol, but I don't see why Capitol would want to have 
>> it=20 in print other than by them. It doesn't add up.
>>
>> Remember that Stokowski and Houston made several records for Everest, 
>> =

>> recorded on 35mm magnetic film. But the Solomon orange-label Everests 
>> =

>> were probably cut from tapes mixed off the films before the 
>> original=20 Everest went out of business. According to Lonn 
>> Henrichsen's history=20 of Everest that was published in Classic 
>> Record Collector, Stokowski=20 and Everest producer Bert Whyte were friends.
>>
>> Speaking of the Shostakovich 11th, was it reissued on CD beyond 
>> the=20 one time EMI put it out in the Capitol classical reissue 
>> series? That =

>> version was terrible, someone got way overly aggressive with 
>> digital=20 noise-reduction, and the end note just cuts off instead of 
>> fades out=20 like on the original LP. There are also clearly audible 
>> tape dropouts =

>> on the CD.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Obert-Thorn"=20 
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info=20 
>> wanted
>>
>>
>>> <<Date:    Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:07:43 -0500
>>> rom:    John Haley <[log in to unmask]>
>>> ubject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted Hi. 
>>> =20 This is off-topic but related.  I recently bought an Everest 
>>> LP=20 record hat is a reissue (unfortunately in "electronic" stereo) 
>>> of an =

>>> earlier apitol mono LP.  I can't recall having seen that before. =20 
>>> Are there more
>>> ike this?   Everest obviously licensed things from other companies, =
but
>>> rom EMI?
>>> Best, John>>
>>>
>>> I recall frequently seeing Stokowski's Houston recording of the=20 
>>> Shostakovich 11th for Capitol/EMI issued as a two-LP set on 
>>> Everest=20 in cut-out bins during the 1970s and wondering the same 
>>> thing. In=20 its later days, Everest did some licensing from other 
>>> companies=20 (e.g., Elman and Renardy releases from Decca/London).
>>>
>>> Mark Obert-Thorn
>>>
>>>
>> .
>>
>
> -- > Joe Salerno
>
>=20

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Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:03:16 -1000
From:    Eric Nagamine <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted

BTW, James North in his Philharmonic Discography says that while the "Stadium SO" concerts/recordings often included Philharmonic members, it wasn't always so.  He doesn't include the Stokie Shostakovich 5th in the orchestra's discography.

--------------------------
Eric Nagamine

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:56 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted

Hi Joe:

Good question! I looked in the booklets of the new Everest reissues and it just says "Houston." I also re-checked part II of Lonn Henrichsen and David Patmore's 2007 Everest profile in Classic Record Collector. No info on the Houston recording site. Given that Everest didn't seem to be ambitious in scouting new or different recording venues, my bet would be that the same venue used by Capitol would have been used by Everest.

Stokowski also made some Everest records with the "Stadium Symphony Orchestra," which was just NY Philharmonic players acting under a different name so as not to violate the NYPO's recording contract. In any case, those recordings were made at Manhattan Center, also used by Columbia, RCA and Vanguard at various times.

By the way, Discogs and all of the other used LP websites show no reissues of the Shostakovich 11th on Everest. There were reissues on Capitol with a different cover, Seraphim (the budget reissue sub-label of Angel in the US), Angel in Europe and Seraphim in the UK with a different catalog number. The original Capitol 2LP set was in a box rather than a gatefold cover and had a separate booklet. Nowhere in the original-issue Capitol 2LP set that I own is there mention of the recording location.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message -----
From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted


> Where were the Stokowski/Houston 35mm mag films recorded?
>
> joe salerno
>
> On 11/18/2013 4:46 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>> Hi Mark:
>>
>> Are you positive that it was the Capitol recording and not one of the 
>> several Everest recordings of Stoki and Houston? I suppose it's 
>> possible that Bernie Solomon was able to license the Shostakovich 
>> 11th from Capitol, but I don't see why Capitol would want to have it 
>> in print other than by them. It doesn't add up.
>>
>> Remember that Stokowski and Houston made several records for Everest, 
>> recorded on 35mm magnetic film. But the Solomon orange-label Everests 
>> were probably cut from tapes mixed off the films before the original 
>> Everest went out of business. According to Lonn Henrichsen's history 
>> of Everest that was published in Classic Record Collector, Stokowski 
>> and Everest producer Bert Whyte were friends.
>>
>> Speaking of the Shostakovich 11th, was it reissued on CD beyond the 
>> one time EMI put it out in the Capitol classical reissue series? That 
>> version was terrible, someone got way overly aggressive with digital 
>> noise-reduction, and the end note just cuts off instead of fades out 
>> like on the original LP. There are also clearly audible tape dropouts 
>> on the CD.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Obert-Thorn"
<[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info 
>> wanted
>>
>>
>>> <<Date:    Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:07:43 -0500
>>> rom:    John Haley <[log in to unmask]>
>>> ubject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP label info wanted Hi.  
>>> This is off-topic but related.  I recently bought an Everest LP 
>>> record hat is a reissue (unfortunately in "electronic" stereo) of an 
>>> earlier apitol mono LP.  I can't recall having seen that before.  
>>> Are there more
>>> ike this?   Everest obviously licensed things from other companies, but
>>> rom EMI?
>>> Best, John>>
>>>
>>> I recall frequently seeing Stokowski's Houston recording of the 
>>> Shostakovich 11th for Capitol/EMI issued as a two-LP set on Everest 
>>> in cut-out bins during the 1970s and wondering the same thing. In 
>>> its later days, Everest did some licensing from other companies 
>>> (e.g., Elman and Renardy releases from Decca/London).
>>>
>>> Mark Obert-Thorn
>>>
>>>
>> .
>>
>
> --
> Joe Salerno
>
> 

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:07:59 -0600
From:    Paul Stamler <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info wanted

On 11/18/2013 11:17 PM, Carl Pultz wrote:
> Speaking of Everest, I'm patiently awaiting Boult's VW 9. The absolute gem of that catalog, IMHO.

*All* of Boult's Vaughan Williams recordings, on Everest or EMI (or
elsewhere?) are gems.

Peace,
Paul

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:38:16 -0500
From:    Steve Ramm <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Review of new Paramount Records "Box" (Literally, in a box) set

 
 
Well the Paramount Set was first available on Amazon today so I posted the FIRST review there.
 
Here is the link :
 
 
_Amazon.com:  Steven I. Ramm "Steve Ramm "Anything Phonographic""'s review of Rise & Fall  of Paramount Records Volume 1_
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.amazon.com/review/R3H2E2X14DA8I4/ref%3Dcm_cr_rdp_perm?ie%3DUTF8%26ASIN%3DB00FKMSN7A%26linkCode%3D%26nodeID%3D%26&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=a9602fbae4c346f45abdbdcbfca9b924fe9860b422a88f01ae4e0d04cde2d083
tag=)  
 
As you will note, the price is just over $500 there. The set is still available on the Third Man Records site for $400.  (And one guy has a set  on Ebay at $649!)
 
Anyway, I thought worth sharing.
 
Steve Ramm

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Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:48:50 -0700
From:    Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info wanted

EMI and Westminster.
=20
> Date: Tue=2C 19 Nov 2013 10:07:59 -0600
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] PROGRAM Records early LP l abel info 
> wante=
d
> To: [log in to unmask]
>=20
> On 11/18/2013 11:17 PM=2C Carl Pultz wrote:
> > Speaking of Everest=2C I'm patiently awaiting Boult's VW 9. The 
> > absolut=
e gem of that catalog=2C IMHO.
>=20
> *All* of Boult's Vaughan Williams recordings=2C on Everest or EMI 
>(or=20
> elsewhere?) are gems.
>=20
> Peace=2C
> Paul
 		 	   		  =

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Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:47:49 -0500
From:    Steve Ramm <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

I JUST learned about this event at NYPL TONIGHT at 7pm Eastern time.  
Should be fascinating. It's sold out but they are STREAMING it LIVE.  I'm  not sure they will archive it and my guess is that many of us want to hear  this. 
I'm out tonight and haven't figured out a good video stream  software.
 
Can one of you talented folks record it and share with the rest of us on line?
 
_Exploring  The Rise and Fall of Paramount Records: Featuring Jack White, Dean and Scott  Blackwood, Daphne A. Brooks, and Greil M_
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blac&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=c83146bbf941381cee9ce1b63dabfc872a1d6e1ea01ecb574110aeb76289d271
kwood-daphne-brooks)  

 
BTW,  this that was included in the description:"  
"By purchasing tickets to this LIVE from the NYPL event, attendees will  
receive a free 78 RPM record specially pressed for the event from Third Man 
and  Revenant Records featuring two fiery sermons from the Paramount catalog."
 
Anyone wanna guess what these will bring on Ebay??? <vbg>
 
Steve Ramm
 


 
Thanks!
 
Steve Ramm

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:13:18 -0600
From:    "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

link doesn't work for me

joe salerno


On 11/19/2013 2:47 PM, Steve Ramm wrote:
> I JUST learned about this event at NYPL TONIGHT at 7pm Eastern time.
> Should be fascinating. It's sold out but they are STREAMING it LIVE.  I'm  not
> sure they will archive it and my guess is that many of us want to hear  this.
> I'm out tonight and haven't figured out a good video stream  software.
>
> Can one of you talented folks record it and share with the rest of us on
> line?
>
> _Exploring  The Rise and Fall of Paramount Records: Featuring Jack White,
> Dean and Scott  Blackwood, Daphne A. Brooks, and Greil M_
> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blac&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=c83146bbf941381cee9ce1b63dabfc872a1d6e1ea01ecb574110aeb76289d271
> kwood-daphne-brooks)
>
>
> BTW,  this that was included in the description:"
> "By purchasing tickets to this LIVE from the NYPL event, attendees will
> receive a free 78 RPM record specially pressed for the event from Third Man
> and  Revenant Records featuring two fiery sermons from the Paramount catalog."
>
> Anyone wanna guess what these will bring on Ebay??? <vbg>
>
> Steve Ramm
>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve Ramm
>

-- 
Joe Salerno

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:17:37 -0600
From:    Iggnsthe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

It's chopped in half in the original message, it should be
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blackwood-daphne-brooks&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=487e1997aa951555c5136cbb9af9df38fc4127a31c3f8e352a2562a4e9e885d0

-----Original Message----- 
From: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 15:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

link doesn't work for me

joe salerno


On 11/19/2013 2:47 PM, Steve Ramm wrote:
> I JUST learned about this event at NYPL TONIGHT at 7pm Eastern time.
> Should be fascinating. It's sold out but they are STREAMING it LIVE.  I'm 
> not
> sure they will archive it and my guess is that many of us want to hear 
> this.
> I'm out tonight and haven't figured out a good video stream  software.
>
> Can one of you talented folks record it and share with the rest of us on
> line?
>
> _Exploring  The Rise and Fall of Paramount Records: Featuring Jack White,
> Dean and Scott  Blackwood, Daphne A. Brooks, and Greil M_
> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blac&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=c83146bbf941381cee9ce1b63dabfc872a1d6e1ea01ecb574110aeb76289d271
> kwood-daphne-brooks)
>
>
> BTW,  this that was included in the description:"
> "By purchasing tickets to this LIVE from the NYPL event, attendees will
> receive a free 78 RPM record specially pressed for the event from Third 
> Man
> and  Revenant Records featuring two fiery sermons from the Paramount 
> catalog."
>
> Anyone wanna guess what these will bring on Ebay??? <vbg>
>
> Steve Ramm
>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve Ramm
>

-- 
Joe Salerno 

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:26:28 -0600
From:    Parker Fishel <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

I think NYPL tends to put up audio, video, and transcript, but it can take
a while.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Iggnsthe wrote:

> It's chopped in half in the original message, it should be
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=ad509f8b6910e13f52cc2dccc00e96f166c4de37ddf08685185645f2bd9d4829
> records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blackwood-daphne-brooks
>
> -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 15:13
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!
>
> link doesn't work for me
>
> joe salerno
>
>
> On 11/19/2013 2:47 PM, Steve Ramm wrote:
>
>> I JUST learned about this event at NYPL TONIGHT at 7pm Eastern time.
>> Should be fascinating. It's sold out but they are STREAMING it LIVE.  I'm
>> not
>> sure they will archive it and my guess is that many of us want to hear
>> this.
>> I'm out tonight and haven't figured out a good video stream  software.
>>
>> Can one of you talented folks record it and share with the rest of us on
>> line?
>>
>> _Exploring  The Rise and Fall of Paramount Records: Featuring Jack White,
>> Dean and Scott  Blackwood, Daphne A. Brooks, and Greil M_
>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=ad509f8b6910e13f52cc2dccc00e96f166c4de37ddf08685185645f2bd9d4829
>> records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blac
>> kwood-daphne-brooks)
>>
>>
>> BTW,  this that was included in the description:"
>> "By purchasing tickets to this LIVE from the NYPL event, attendees will
>> receive a free 78 RPM record specially pressed for the event from Third
>> Man
>> and  Revenant Records featuring two fiery sermons from the Paramount
>> catalog."
>>
>> Anyone wanna guess what these will bring on Ebay??? <vbg>
>>
>> Steve Ramm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steve Ramm
>>
>>
> --
> Joe Salerno

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:43:22 -0500
From:    Steve Ramm <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fwd: The NYPL Paramount Event iS geing archived on their You Tube Channel

 



So we can download by end of week.
 
Steve

------------------------------

Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:06:27 -0500
From:    Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: When stereo was young, West Coast style

Marc Myers give Pete Rugolo, Jack Marshall and Shelly Manne some overdue props:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.jazzwax.com/2013/11/stereo-experiements-west.html&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=ebeca76f2e032a844e3195ca534a5f1e7e168b84672e6ce6ba487551c281642c

Rugolo's 35mm albums were recorded at Bill Putnam's United Recording, and one of them might have 
been done at Radio Recorders. Rugolo also made some great "stereo spectacular" albums out there and, 
I think, in Chicago, at the very dawn of stereo, mostly working with Bill Putnam.

I highly recommend those Jack Marshall/Shelly Manne albums on a purely musical basis. Those guys 
were spot-on aces. The Contemporary album, recorded by Ray DuNann, has amazing sound, some of the 
best percussion recordings I've ever heard.

All of the albums shown were chasing the success of Command Records. Command invented the "Stereo 
Percussion" genre, and then got into stuff like "Reeds and Drums" and the like. I would say the 
Mercury PPS and f:35d series were shameless copies. Am-Par went as far as to steal Terry Snyder 
away, to record a knockoff of "Persuasive Percussion" with almost the same personnel (including the 
same studio). Capitol and Contemporary put more of a west coast vibe on things, but they were still 
chasing Command's tail. It's a safe bet that Enoch Light saw the irony in all this, because he had 
started out as a record-label executive by quickly recording hit-of-the-minute knockoffs on 
"extended play" late-era 78's, and sometimes peddling the records door-to-door.

None of this takes away from the fact that some of these records hold up very well, musically. 
Others definitely don't, but I think the whole lot of them get stereotyped (pun intended), and so 
the better, more swinging records get lumped with "ping-pong bachelor pad music," which correctly 
describes only a some of them.

-- Tom Fine

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Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:16:20 -0700
From:    Charlie Allin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/live/multimedia&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=a3f3c9370d5d75296c4587a5d0b810745467ee4e733b42797bd65b98ea9e18b1

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Date:    Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:45:58 -0800
From:    Nathan Coy <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!

Here you go:
On youtube streaming

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DIVX11KvBOUI&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=7b7eb850c71aaac720dff082c7f4e025a59d14a58a387cd3544cda740a699802


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Parker Fishel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think NYPL tends to put up audio, video, and transcript, but it can take
> a while.
>
> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Iggnsthe wrote:
>
> > It's chopped in half in the original message, it should be
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=ad509f8b6910e13f52cc2dccc00e96f166c4de37ddf08685185645f2bd9d4829
> > records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blackwood-daphne-brooks
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 15:13
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Okay tekkie guys, we need you help!
> >
> > link doesn't work for me
> >
> > joe salerno
> >
> >
> > On 11/19/2013 2:47 PM, Steve Ramm wrote:
> >
> >> I JUST learned about this event at NYPL TONIGHT at 7pm Eastern time.
> >> Should be fascinating. It's sold out but they are STREAMING it LIVE.
>  I'm
> >> not
> >> sure they will archive it and my guess is that many of us want to hear
> >> this.
> >> I'm out tonight and haven't figured out a good video stream  software.
> >>
> >> Can one of you talented folks record it and share with the rest of us on
> >> line?
> >>
> >> _Exploring  The Rise and Fall of Paramount Records: Featuring Jack
> White,
> >> Dean and Scott  Blackwood, Daphne A. Brooks, and Greil M_
> >> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2013/11/19/paramount-&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=AlrLa35i7HwkparatS2PWg%3D%3D%0A&m=DTOrF1en%2FWeby5C6zHvXnKeKafbRGbVR5ktamzFEPII%3D%0A&s=ad509f8b6910e13f52cc2dccc00e96f166c4de37ddf08685185645f2bd9d4829
> >> records-featuring-jack-white-dean-blac
> >> kwood-daphne-brooks)
> >>
> >>
> >> BTW,  this that was included in the description:"
> >> "By purchasing tickets to this LIVE from the NYPL event, attendees will
> >> receive a free 78 RPM record specially pressed for the event from Third
> >> Man
> >> and  Revenant Records featuring two fiery sermons from the Paramount
> >> catalog."
> >>
> >> Anyone wanna guess what these will bring on Ebay??? <vbg>
> >>
> >> Steve Ramm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Steve Ramm
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > Joe Salerno
>

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End of ARSCLIST Digest - 18 Nov 2013 to 19 Nov 2013 (#2013-323)
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