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I would much rather see these collections end up at Goodwill or Salvation Army,where crate diggers like me could get at it,and push the stuff further down the line.
Roger

> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 10:07:00 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> It's a real issue, and we should all mark Tom's words. I have bought
> collections and particpated in clean-outs for relatives and others, and
> believe me, the real enemy of the great collection is the dumpster.  That
> is where a lot of them go.  My goal is to skinny down what I have while I
> am alive, and then leave some kind of list or markings of what is really
> valuable.  To the non-collectors in our families who have tolerated our
> collections for years, it is usually all junk to be got rid of.
> 
> Best,
> John Haley
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, eugene hayhoe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > I, when I walk into my basement, feel like 'what a lucky guy.' My wife,
> > OTOH, goes 'OMG!' and mostly won't even come down here.
> >
> > The concern I have is finding the spot where 'she gets the most value' and
> > 'the recordings, etc. end up in the right places' meet - most dealers have
> > personal financial interests, and the moving 'would not be a quick, casual
> > job.'  I've suggested more than once that she 'hire someone to open a
> > temporary store' as the best way to liquidate, but she doesn't display much
> > enthusiasm, despite the quite profitable nature of that idea. One friend
> > could be interested in some, but has his own space issues of the same
> > nature. As a retired college faculty member, I wouldn't trust much of any
> > school to 'use them appropriately.'
> >
> > I've also told her that 'if Koester is still around when that time comes,
> > he'd probably be interested.'
> >
> > And in NO way is that a dis; only spoke to him once, but 'have been
> > appreciating his efforts in preserving American music for over 45 years.'
> >
> > Gene
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Tue, 12/3/13, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Date: Tuesday, December 3, 2013, 8:03 AM
> >
> >  One lesson that can be learned is
> >  that we who collect should explore, while we are healthy,
> >  vital and with full faculties, who might want to inherit our
> >  collections. Is there an institution or archive we trust,
> >  and is interested? Another collector? Would we like to
> >  pre-arrange an auction with an expert in the topic areas
> >  where we focus our collection? Don't assume spouses or
> >  children or friends know or care about your collection,
> >  unless you have included them in it and they have expressed
> >  interest.
> >
> >  Having inherited a few collections of records and vintage
> >  audio gear, I will say that it is never an easy process
> >  because of the bulk, logistics, storage and other issues.
> >  There is always expense and time-burden put on the person
> >  taking over the collection, so make sure that person wants
> >  the collection enough to put in the time and put up the
> >  money. In my case, it helped very much in the cases where
> >  the collection was well-documented. It also helped that two
> >  of the collections had been introduced to me gradually, with
> >  detailed explaination from the original owners. In fact I
> >  treasure those times, with people I respected and cared for
> >  explaining something they loved and about which they knew a
> >  great deal, more than I treasure the actual items.
> >
> >  In the other cases, it was "hey I know you like this kind of
> >  stuff and we need to clean out XX's house so we can sell it,
> >  if you'll come and take it away you can have it." In those
> >  cases, I was much more likely to sell off pieces in order to
> >  cover my logistics and storage expenses, very soon after
> >  taking possession. I do not regret any of those sales,
> >  because some very nice items passed into hands that
> >  appreciate and use them today. In these cases, I have passed
> >  back all other sales proceeds to the people generous enough
> >  to call me rather than put stuff in the dumpster or turn it
> >  over to an estate-sale hack to get pennies on the dollar of
> >  the true values. Net-net, I ended up keeping fewer items
> >  from these collections, but it's nice to have those things.
> >
> >  The final case I've been involved in was my friend, 10 years
> >  my junior, who died suddenly earlier this year. His father
> >  needed help assessing his house-full of audio gear, tapes
> >  and records, and finding buyers for what had monetary value
> >  and takers for the rest. We managed to get 90% of it sold
> >  and given away, and the rest really was dumpster junk. I
> >  bought some equipment items, which I am happy to have, and
> >  his father gave me his records and tapes, which I am very
> >  pleased to have and will remind me of my good friend gone
> >  too soon.
> >
> >  The point of this is, if you care about what happens to your
> >  collection when you're gone, you need to be proactive. The
> >  best time to be proactive is when you have the energy and
> >  the presence of mind to do it, ie not at the very end. You
> >  can't take it with you, and you must assume that no one else
> >  values it and nothing good will happen to it unless you make
> >  preparations and enlist allies who will outlive you.
> >
> >  -- Tom Fine
> >
> >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "eugene hayhoe" <[log in to unmask]
> > >
> >  To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >  Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 7:26 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr
> >
> >
> >  > All that work collecting and organizing for naught? A
> >  shame. Hope they ended up with 'someone who appreciates what
> >  they have.'
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --------------------------------------------
> >  > On Mon, 12/2/13, Dave Burnham <[log in to unmask]>
> >  wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] steven barr
> >  > To: [log in to unmask]
> >  > Date: Monday, December 2, 2013, 9:00 PM
> >  >
> >  > David Lennick is your best bet,
> >  > however I'm not sure he has the info either. I don't
> >  think
> >  > there is an e-mail address because the reason he
> >  stopped
> >  > posting on 78L was because he didn't have a computer.
> >  He may
> >  > well be out of reach. I understand his records have
> >  been
> >  > liquidated to cover debts owing.
> >  >
> >  > db
> >  >
> >  > Sent from my iPhone
> >  >
> >  > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:43 PM, David Seubert <[log in to unmask]>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Anybody heard from Steve Barr lately and have a
> >  current
> >  > contact email? The
> >  > > email I have for him bounces.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Thanks,
> >  > >
> >  > > David
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