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Re: SSD drives. WAS derivative file conversion advice

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 15 Jan 2014 08:00:14 -0500

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This is good to know. V10 didn't change much and messed up the "transfer the open file to 
CDArchitect", replacing it with a lame "burn to disc" feature. I much prefer CD Architect for making 
CDs. As I understand it, they did improve the built-in disc authoring in V11, plus added (finally) 
BWAV support. V10 improves FLAC support over V9, but it's still imperfect (better idea to use FLAC's 
author's own utility to "un-FLAC" to WAV and then do what you want to do in SF, then "re-FLAC" when 
you're finished, using FLAC author's utility).

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Durenberger" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] SSD drives. WAS derivative file conversion advice


> While we're at it and on a related note;  Sound Forge 11 has some nice new features (I think 
> they're chasing 'Audition.')
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Durenberger
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Carl Pultz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:42 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] SSD drives. WAS derivative file conversion advice
>
> That is a good idea. Also, there is a setting in XP that optimizes the OS for "background tasks." 
> It's somewhere in My Computer>Preferences. Could help. I never saw much of a benefit to having the 
> swap on a different drive from the system HD, though you'd think it would speed things up if that 
> drive isn't also busy fetching other data. Windows relies so much on memory swap that I would 
> expect a SSD to have a dramatic impact on this kind of operation. That will also be governed by 
> the speed of the system buss and its behavior with the RAM and processor. Given the wide variety 
> of implementations in the Windows system world, it is hard to predict overall performance based on 
> the specs of individual components. This helps to keep custom system venders relevant.
>
> It may also be true that XP isn't going to fully utilize the capabilities of newer hardware. But, 
> that's getting beyond my current knowledge and experience.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 
> Of Mark Durenberger
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] SSD drives. WAS derivative file conversion advice
>
> Shai:  I'm NOT the computer guru on this list but might suggest you try working with some of the 
> cache and data on the same drive as the program...just to see if there's any improvement.  If 
> nothing else, it'd eliminate a Variable.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Durenberger
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shai Drori
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 5:57 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] SSD drives. WAS derivative file conversion advice
>
> Hi Mark
> This is interesting. My audio workstation died after 12 years of service but because I am happy 
> with the programs and didn't want to invest in new versions I bought a new computer (dual core i3) 
> and installed XP pro on it. This means that the working environment is the same. I expected batch 
> processing and all other processing to be lighting speed with the new processor (the old one was 
> Pentium 4). I was disappointed to find out that most of the time the processor is idle and the 
> processing time is almost the same. I wonder if switching to SSD will change that (wavelab 
> mostly). I doubt it.
> Any thoughts anyone? I should mention, that C drive holds only the programs. All data and cache 
> are on another drive.
> Cheers
> Shai
> בתאריך 15/01/14 12:58 PM, ציטוט Mark Durenberger:
>> Tom, thank you for your thoughts on batch conversion. We've previously
>> "chatted" about this and I wanted to share a subsequent experience.
>>
>> I use garden-variety H-P desktops with a mix of Western Digital Black
>> and Green hard drives. I've owned Sound Forge since Version 4 and have
>> a pretty good feel for its performance. I agree that the Batch
>> Converter is an unimaginative yet reliable work-horse. It's not a
>> speed-demon, even when the program and the store folders are on the same drive.
>>
>> Then, a few weeks ago I replaced my C-Drive with a Samsung SSD. The
>> SSD contains only the operating programs and user data.
>>
>> As expected, performance across all programs became snappier. Even
>> with the SF store files on spinning hard drives, the speed improvement
>> in batch conversion (and other processing) was remarkable.
>>
>> I'm one of those folks who hesitates to embrace new developments until
>> they're past the Beta stage and into Rev 1. The Solid-State Drive is
>> now well-established...and prices have started coming down.
>>
>> YMMV of course.
>>
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Mark Durenberger
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Fine
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:08 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] derivative file conversion advice
>>
>> Sony Sound Forge has a batch converter utility built in, for both
>> Windows and Mac versions. I find it to be very reliable and accurate
>> but slow in Windows. My favorite batch converter is now dBPowerAmp's,
>> but I think it's only available for Windows. It is fast and very
>> reliable, and it produces quite good sounding MP3 files from HD WAV.
>> It also has a very good batch sample-rate converter.
>>
>> I'll admit that I haven't tried dBPowerAmp for a paying client's
>> batch-conversion yet. My thinking is, I created the master files in
>> Sound Forge so I'll let Sound Forge grind all night and do the batch
>> conversions, and this has produced flawless results so far. But I
>> threw dBPowerAmp at converting all my HDTracks FLAC and AIFF files to
>> MP3 for my iPod (I know, it kinda defeats the purpose, but they sound
>> better than CD rips to my ears, so I still come out ahead when I'm on
>> the go). It did the job very quickly and with no mistakes, and all the
>> tagging info was handled perfectly.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill McQuay" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] derivative file conversion advice
>>
>>
>>> AWE by Minnetonka, individual version
>>>
>>> You can also batch files through Wavelab creating a variety of sound
>>> format flavors.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 2:52 PM, "Tre Berney" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello ARSCLIST-
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the market for a Mac-based program that will batch convert
>>>> derivative files. I'm having a few cross-platform issues with WMP
>>>> not recognizing the files (and randomly, which is weird). I'm a mac
>>>> user in a (primarily) PC library system. I've been using NHC
>>>> Software's Switch Plus - http://www.nch.com.au/switch/
>>>>
>>>> Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>> Tre Berney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tre Berney
>>>> Multimedia Specialist, Cornell University Library Digital
>>>> Scholarship and Preservation
>>>> Services<http://www.library.cornell.edu/DSPS>
>>>> Digital Consulting and Production Services
>>>> <http://dcaps.library.cornell.edu/>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> 237 Olin Library | Cornell University
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>>>> AES<http://www.aes.org/>,
>>>> ARSC<http://www.arsc-audio.org/index.php><http://www.arsc-audio.org/
>>>> index.php>, IASA<http://www.iasa-web.org/>,
>>>> AMIA<http://www.amianet.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Shai Drori
> Timeless Recordings
> [log in to unmask]
> בברכה,
> שי דרורי
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