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Re: VHS to DVD question

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Shai Drori <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Rich
It works with PC as well but quality it's a piece of @#$%. The decklink 
is much better althogh not suited to his budget.
Just m2c.
Shai :-)


בתאריך 18/01/14 7:27 PM, ציטוט Richard L. Hess:
> Hi, John,
>
> That looks like a great little unit. Too bad that it appears to be 
> Mac-only.
>
> http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity
>
> The Intensity USB appears to work for Windows or Mac and offers HDMI 
> I/O as well--for only $200, $50 more than the Mac-only one which has 
> no digital I/O.
>
> Though I do not archive video for clients (and not much for me, 
> either), I do agree that files on multiple hard drives is the way to go.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On 2014-01-18 11:27 AM, John Schroth wrote:
>> Hi Peter:
>>
>> Just my two cents as I digitize video for a living among other formats.
>>
>> All in one VHS to DVD units can be spotty. I don't own any myself but
>> I've known people that have tried them only to find out after doing a
>> whole bunch of tapes that the disks do not play properly. I've heard of
>> other people who have had success. I've heard that the JVC units are
>> decent. Although they are labeled "professional", they are not
>> expensive. I believe the decks in these units have built-in TBC (time
>> base correction) that will help stabilize and improve the
>> picture/visual. It's not the best TBC but better than not having one.
>>
>> If you are looking to do "minor" editing, it is much easier to do this
>> with a unit that has an internal hard drive. The only other option for
>> editing is via computer and NLE software - which is much more time
>> consuming.
>>
>> For whatever combination you decide, use good disks. I only recommend
>> Verbatim, JVC/Taiyo Yuden or MAM-A. I think Verbatim is easiest for you
>> to buy. Do not skimp of the quality of the disks, I can't stress the
>> importance of using a good quality disk. Run some tests using your
>> preferred disks on the burning unit to insure the unit and the disks
>> work together (I have seen some rare cases with these units that they do
>> not work well with certain disks and fine with others). Burn at the
>> slowest speed possible. Test the disks after burning. If you see
>> pausing/hesitation you're using poor quality disks, burning the disks
>> too fast or have the wrong combination of disks/burner. You might not
>> see pausing/hesitation until near the end so check the entire disk. Do
>> this for several samples. Once you're sure the disks are playing
>> properly you can then start your project in earnest.
>>
>> One last thought...DVD is on the cusp of being phased out. MPG2, the
>> file format for DVD, is an old and less efficient compression format.
>> Encoding to file based format is where things are going and in the near
>> future most homes will have a central media player drive with
>> connections that go straight to your TV and stereo. Just like you are
>> moving your tapes to DVD, you'll be moving your DVD's to file in five or
>> six years. Consider saving a step and running from your VHS deck
>> straight to file. I would suggest /considering a blackmagic H.264
>> encoder such as this one:
>> http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/videorecorder. Blackmagic makes
>> a lot of professional video hardware and software and the name is very
>> well respected. It's a great little unit for home use and even allows
>> you to set the record length so you can walk away and the software will
>> stop recording at the end of the tape. H.264 is a more efficient codec
>> than MPEG2 and is also a newer format - so you won't have to worry about
>> recoding to newer formats as soon into the future. Depending on
>> compression rates, H.264 will move to future formats in better quality
>> than MPEG2 as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Schroth
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/2014 10:23 PM, Peter Hirsch wrote:
>>> Since I recall a number of discussions of video and scanner issues
>>> appearing recently on this list, I hope that it is not too far off 
>>> topic
>>> for the list to solicit opinions on a game plan, using consumer quality
>>> electronics, for transferring up to a few hundred VHS tapes to DVD. 
>>> Most
>>> can be transferred on auto-pilot but at least some would need a bit of
>>> editing (mostly deleting unwanted bits - nothing more complicated than
>>> that). This is a personal project that need only produce watchable
>>> results;
>>> long-term archival-quality preservation is not the goal.
>>>
>>> I have dug up one inexpensive all-in-one unit that seems like a decent
>>> candidate, Toshiba DVR
>>> 620<http://www.toshiba.com/us/video-electronics/dvd-players/dvr620>
>>> and
>>> there may be others out there that I'd be happy to hear about. I figure
>>> that I will have little use for this equipment once the transfer
>>> project is
>>> done, so I would rather buy something cheap and not worry about
>>> longevity.
>>> Though I'd rather use the low-tech approach of a single unit that
>>> combines
>>> the DVD and VHS, I do have a couple of functional VCRs lying around, 
>>> so I
>>> would also consider a standalone DVD recorder as an option as a plan B.
>>>
>>> Anyone out there with experience doing this they'd like to share 
>>> with me?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Peter Hirsch
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
> -- Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask] Aurora, Ontario, 
> Canada 647 479 2800 http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm 
> Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
>

-- 
Cheers
Shai Drori
Timeless Recordings
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