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Re: Publisher's street address (2)

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Stephen Paul Davis <[log in to unmask]>

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Metadata Object Description Schema List <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:39:54 -0500

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I think the answer to your question about whether and how to encode a 
publisher's street address depends on the type of material being 
described.   Traditionally, in rare book cataloging at least, when the 
publisher's address appears along with the name of publisher/printer, 
the address is considered part of the "Name of publisher, distributor, 
etc." [[MARC 260 $b].

For example,

"Imprimerie d'E. Duverger, rue de Verneuil, no 4
and
"Printed for T. Cooper, at the Globe in Pater-noster-Row, 1742, and 
reprinted for J. Wilkie, St. Paul's Church-yard."

In MODS the street address would thus appear in the <publisher> element 
in its position following the publisher's name, rather than the <place> 
element.   The "Place of publication, distribution, etc" element 
(<place>) normally includes only the city, state and sometimes country 
of publication.

Changing MODS to include an address in the <place> element and forcing 
it to move out of the publisher element would make it difficult to 
preserve what remains of the "transcriptional" nature of this area in 
standard rare book cataloging.  Note too that for some publications, 
there is more than one publisher and address -- how to link multiple 
pairs of publishers and addressses if they're placed out of order and 
encoded in separate elements?

In the cataloging of modern items I don't think one normally bothers to 
include publishers' addresses if they even appear -- right?  Some 
publications do include the publisher's website address near the name of 
the publisher... Encode??

We should be a little wary of coding data at too detailed a level just 
because it theoretically _could_ be encoded at that level. There should 
be known use cases that support coding at greater detail that are deemed 
to be worth the extra expense of coding, displaying, and parsing the 
content for indexing.

It would be another matter, of course, if you needed to perform special 
retrieval or sorting operations on the street address; in that case you 
would want it structured more for access, delimiting the street number 
separately from the street name and perhaps any cardinal direction.  
This could be done, as Rebecca suggests, in the hierarchicalGeographic 
element, where the information could be recorded in a more highly 
structured way.

/Stephen

On 2/19/2014 12:00 AM, MODS automatic digest system wrote:
> There are 2 messages totalling 284 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
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>    1. Publisher's street address (2)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:31 +0000
> From:    "Strong, Marcy" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Publisher's street address
>
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> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to capture the street address of the publisher and there doesn't=
>   appear to be an attribute under <placeTerm> that would allow the recording=
>   of this information.  Does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcy
>
>
> Marcy A. Strong
> Metadata Creation and Enrichment Librarian
> River Campus Libraries
> University of Rochester
> 755 Library Road
> Rochester, NY  14627-0055
> (585) 273-2325 | [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ster.edu>
>
>
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> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#8217;m trying to capture the street address of th=
> e publisher and there doesn&#8217;t appear to be an attribute under &lt;pla=
> ceTerm&gt; that would allow the recording of this information.&nbsp; Does a=
> nyone have a suggestion?<o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<br>
> Marcy<o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marcy A. Strong<o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Metadata Creation and Enrichment Librarian<o:p></o:p=
>> </p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">River Campus Libraries <o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">University of Rochester<o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">755 Library Road <o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rochester, NY&nbsp; 14627-0055<o:p></o:p></p>
> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">(585) 273-2325 | <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ochester.edu">
> <span style=3D"color:windowtext">[log in to unmask]</span></a><o=
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:20:41 -0500
> From:    "Guenther, Rebecca" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Publisher's street address
>
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> At this point you would have to use a string in <placeTerm> associated with=
>   the city, but there isn't a way to tag it as an address. We have talked ab=
> out enhancing place information in originInfo and aligning it with place in=
> formation under subject (especially being able to use hierarchicalGeographi=
> c under originInfo places). This would need to be done in version 4. Note t=
> hat very recently we discussed changes to hierarchicalGeographic and design=
> ating a type for citySection (including sectionType=3D"street"), which coul=
> d allow for the designation of an address.
>
> Rebecca
>
> Rebecca Squire Guenther
> Network Development & MARC Standards Office
> Library of Congress
> Washington, DC 20540
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> From: Metadata Object Description Schema List [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ] On Behalf Of Strong, Marcy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MODS] Publisher's street address
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to capture the street address of the publisher and there doesn't=
>   appear to be an attribute under <placeTerm> that would allow the recording=
>   of this information.  Does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcy
>
>
> Marcy A. Strong
> Metadata Creation and Enrichment Librarian
> River Campus Libraries
> University of Rochester
> 755 Library Road
> Rochester, NY  14627-0055
> (585) 273-2325 | [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ster.edu>
>
>
>
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> nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'c=
> olor:#1F497D'>At this point you would have to use a string in &lt;placeTerm=
> &gt; associated with the city, but there isn't a way to tag it as an addres=
> s. We have talked about enhancing place information in originInfo and align=
> ing it with place information under subject (especially being able to use h=
> ierarchicalGeographic under originInfo places). This would need to be done =
> in version 4. Note that very recently we discussed changes to hierarchicalG=
> eographic and designating a type for citySection (including sectionType=3D&=
> quot;street&quot;), which could allow for the designation of an address. <o=
> :p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p=
>> &nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>=
> Rebecca<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F4=
> 97D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:=
> #1F497D'>Rebecca Squire Guenther<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
> <span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Network Development &amp; MARC Standards Offi=
> ce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>=
> Library of Congress<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
> =3D'color:#1F497D'>Washington, DC 20540<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
> Normal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>[log in to unmask]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
> lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
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> ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
> pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-s=
> ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Metadata Object Description =
> Schema List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Strong, Marc=
> y<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> MODS@LIS=
> TSERV.LOC.GOV<br><b>Subject:</b> [MODS] Publisher's street address<o:p></o:=
> p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
> =3DMsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;m trying to capture the street address of the=
>   publisher and there doesn&#8217;t appear to be an attribute under &lt;plac=
> eTerm&gt; that would allow the recording of this information.&nbsp; Does an=
> yone have a suggestion?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
>> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<br>Marcy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
> al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
> =3DMsoNormal>Marcy A. Strong<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Metadata Cr=
> eation and Enrichment Librarian<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>River Ca=
> mpus Libraries <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>University of Rochester<=
> o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>755 Library Road <o:p></o:p></p><p class=
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> mal>(585) 273-2325 | <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><span=
>   style=3D'color:windowtext'>[log in to unmask]</span></a><o:p></=
> o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p=
>> &nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=
> --_000_5483534C5FA8464B881ED2184D98C0F603BD53718ELCXCLMB03LCDS_--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of MODS Digest - 4 Feb 2014 to 18 Feb 2014 (#2014-11)
> *********************************************************
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