Here's a link to a cite that discusses the earliest radio broadcasts (not
limited to symphonic), based on the expertise of ARSC;s own Dr. Biel.
http://www.old-time.com/mcleod/
Best,
John Haley
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> I have often wondered,what is the earliest surviving recording of a
> symphony orchestra radio broadcast?
>
> > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:51:58 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > February 10, 1922, as noted in the posting, so the DSO beat the NY Phil
> by 6 months.
> >
> > However, as a consolation, it appears that NYPO had the first national
> broadcast in 1930,
> > 4 years before the DSO began their Ford Hour broadcasts.
> >
> >
> > -- Leo Gillis
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 3/20/14, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 7:24 PM
> >
> > Can you supply date?
> >
> > New York Phil. Many summer Concerts were complete, the first
> > being 8/11/22.
> >
> > Steve Smolian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Leo Gillis
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:09 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour broadcasts
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > There certainly were earlier broadcasts of classical music
> > on the radio but it seems that the DSO was the first to do a
> > full concert.
> >
> > This is from the DSO website:
> >
> > "In 1922, Gabrilowitsch led the orchestra and guest pianist
> > Artur Schnabel in the world's first radio broadcast of a
> > symphonic concert on WWJ-AM. "
> >
> > and from last.fm:
> >
> > "The DSO performed the world's first radio broadcast of a
> > symphonic concert on February 10, 1922 with pianist Artur
> > Schnabel, and became the first nationally broadcast radio
> > orchestra on the Ford Sunday Evening Hour, later Ford
> > Symphony Hour from 1934 to 1942 on the Columbia Broadcast
> > System."
> >
> > and from the Schabel Music Foundation:
> >
> > "Feb. 1922 --Schnabel coincidentally participated in the
> > first live radio broadcast of a complete symphony orchestra
> > concert. This was in Detroit, Michigan during his first
> > American tour."
> >
> >
> > There are only four instances of Schnabel mentioned in the
> > performance archives of the DSO. The first two are for
> > identical concerts on Feb. 9 and 10, 1922; the second
> > performance was the one broadcast on WWJ (which, however,
> > was still WBL at that time, and did not receive the call
> > letters WWJ until March 3, 1922):
> >
> >
> > Tenth Programme
> > Subscription 10
> >
> > Detroit Symphony Orchestra
> > Thursday, February 09, 1922
> >
> > Artists
> > Ossip Gabrilowtisch, conductor
> > Artur Schnabel, Piano
> >
> > Program
> > Mendelssohn - Overture from Calm Sea and Prosperous
> > Voyage, Op. 27 Brahms - Piano Concerto No.1 in D
> > minor, Op.15 Intermission Tchaikovsky - Symphony No. 6
> > in B minor, Op. 74, "Pathétique"
> >
> >
> > So when did the NYPO start their broadcasts? From their site
> > we have:
> >
> > "Aug. 11, 1922 - First broadcast by a
> > major symphony orchestra, New York Philharmonic,
> > program conducted by Willem van Hoogstraten from Lewisohn
> > Stadium."
> >
> >
> > -- Leo Gillis
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 3/20/14, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour
> > broadcasts
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 5:26 PM
> >
> > Hi, there, DDR et al,
> >
> > The New York Philharmonic was being broadcast regularly
> > the
> > previous year.
> >
> > Steve Smolian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:12 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ford Sunday Evening Hour
> > broadcasts
> >
> > The 1923 broadcasts are authentic but unrecorded. The were
> > conducted by
> > Gabrilowitsch. They may have been the first radio
> > broadcast
> > of a regular
> > symphony orchestra concert. The Minneapolis Symphony under
> > Verbrugghen also
> > broadcast in that same year.
> >
> > DDR
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:41 PM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Leo. Great info.
> > > Best, John
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Leo Gillis <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The online archives of the DSO for the Ford
> > Sunday
> > Evening Hour goes
> > > > from
> > > > 2/16/1934 to 3/8/1947. A couple are listed for
> > 1923, but I'm not
> > > > sure if those are correct.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dso.org/performanceTitle.aspx?page_id=648
> > > >
> > > > The list of conductors includes: Victor
> > Kolar, Fritz Reiner, Mischa
> > > > Levitsky, Alexander Smallens, Charles Hackett,
> > Richard Bonelli, Sir
> > > Ernest
> > > > MacMillan, Emma Otero, Franco Ghione, Elwyn
> > Carter, Andre
> > > > Kostelanetz,
> > > Sir
> > > > John Barbirolli, Sir Thomas Beecham, Wilfrid
> > Pelletier, Jose Iturbi,
> > > George
> > > > Szell, Sir Eugene Ormandy, Reginald Stewart,
> > Artur, Rodzinaksi,
> > > > Eugene Goossens, Victor Kolar, Harold Koch,
> > Dmitri
> > Mitropoulos, Karl
> > > > Krueger, William Steinberg, Leonard Bernstein,
> > Efrem Kurtz, and C.
> > Valter Poole.
> > > >
> > > > The first few years were all Kolar, (DSO
> > principal
> > conductor) then
> > > > Reiner and Ormandy began appearing. Kolar,
> > Reiner,
> > Ormandy, Iturbi,
> > > > Pelletier
> > > and
> > > > Beecham did numerous performances, and many of
> > these in later years
> > > > were held at the Music Hall, another fine, small
> > venue in downtown
> > > > Detroit, still in operation. Several of the
> > listings unfortunately
> > > > do not include the performance venue.
> > > >
> > > > -- Leo Gillis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Don Tait
> > ([log in to unmask])
> >
> >
> > > > < [log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have tapes or private CD-Rs of some
> > of those broadcasts. From
> > > > circa > 1941/2. Each 30 minutes. All I
> > have are conducted by Fritz
> > > > Reiner, who > presumably took the train
> > up from Pittsburgh for the
> > > > gig. I got the > recordings >
> > from fellow Reiner collectors and
> > > > have no idea who might have
> > conducted > other > programs. As one
> > > > might expect, the selections are short
> > and the musical > gruel is
> > > > pretty thin. The "theme music" for each
> > program is the French >
> > > > horn > "bedtime" music from Hansel und
> > Gretel.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not remember
> > whether the
> > > > announcer(s) said from where the
> > > > > broadcasts originated. Sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don Tait
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/18/2014 3:38:10
> > P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Starting in 1934 and continuing
> > for a number of years
> > > > thereafter, the > Detroit
> > Symphony
> > appeared on a radio program,
> > > > the Ford Symphony Hour.
> > > > > Some
> > > > > of the most distinguished
> > conductors of that time regularly
> > > > guested on > this > show,
> > which
> > also featured big name soloists.
> > > > Preserved broadcasts show
> > > > > that the orchestra was an excellent
> > one
> > during this period, and
> > > > the > acoustics audible on these
> > recordings sound OK, with a touch
> > > > of nice hall > ambiance. A
> > number of these broadcasts are sought
> > > > after by collectors. I >
> > don't know where these shows were
> > > > recorded, but I assume they predate
> > the > Ford Auditorium referred
> > > > to previously.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > John Haley
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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