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Re: WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:50:21 -0400

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Hi Duane:

You know, you should get together with Needle Doctor or some other online retailer and put together 
a package and website "The Vinyl Beginner." Get an equipment package together along the lines of 
what the WSJ article was attempting (try to keep total cost under $1K, and assume headphones because 
that's how the youngsters listen today). Make some videos of how to use your system properly, how to 
clean a record properly (try to keep it to as few steps as possible and avoid lecturing a kid that 
his records are dirty). Have the equipment retailer make videos detailing how to set up the 
turntable, how to connect everything, and maybe the retailer gets with one of the vinyl dealers and 
offers a discount code a couple of records as part of the package.

One point I hear over and over from people who like music and are somewhat interested in checking 
out LPs is "it's complicated and the people who are into it are unfriendly." So true! No reason it 
should be a tweaky, elitist thing. And, the kids who spring for a good beginner vinyl system will 
soon realize how crappy their lossy downloads in the iPhone sound, and they can be added to the 
growing army of consumers demanding better quality.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] WSJ article on vinyl playbackl equipment


> Hi Tom,
>
> From my perspective, you need to keep in mind that the way fluids are removed is secondary to the 
> actual cleaning.  Cleaning is performed by the fluid, applicator & method.  The same end result 
> can be reached whether using vacuum-assisted fluid removal or pure cotton terry cloth rags to wick 
> fluid from the groove.  An ultrasonic bath is not a substitute for a properly configured blend of 
> surfactants.  Our own approach has been in public view for over 25 yrs.
>
> A quart of our QuickWash Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [no-rinse required], a single wet 
> cleaning brush w/user replaceable pad & a set of cotton drying cloths is less than a Spin-Clean.
>
> A pint of our premiere product, the Miracle Record Cleaner w/ 4oz. dispenser [makes up 1.5 pints 
> working strength], a pair wet cleaning brushes w/user replaceable pads & a set of cotton drying 
> cloths are is within several $ of the Spin Cleaner.
>
> The only other items we recommend for cleaning are an old changer with a rubber mat configured 
> with a concentric circle design as a work platform & a vinyl covered dish rack.
>
> The QW solution is for vinyl pressings only.  The MRC has a long track record of superior cleaning 
> of lacquer, shellac, acetate, Diamond Disc & vinyl surfaces.
>
> It's all about setting a standard for the quality of recorded sound  ..... it's always been about 
> the MUSIC!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Duane Goldman
>
> ps  we hope to have available a safer & more effective approach to cleaning lacquer masters prior 
> to plating before years end.
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Duane:
>>
>> Agreed that the Spin-Clean is not on par with something like a VPI.
>>
>> So what are your recommendations "for less money"?
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>
> H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA
> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]
>
> 

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