Bobby,
This is in the LC RDA training materials:
http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/RDA%20training%20materials/LC%20RDA%20Training/Module2CarriersandWorksSept12.ppt
See slides 70-76, particularly slide 73. LC's take on this is that most
if not all new compilations have not yet become known by a particular
title. Leaves of Grass is one of their examples of an exception in that
enough time and many manifestations have been published that identify this
compilation by a particular title. So for new compilations, they have
instructed their catalogers to use a conventional collective title as the
name for these compilations. Now if "Falling up" is an example of a
compilation that HAS become known by its title, then the cataloger would
not apply the alternative at 6.2.2.10.3.
As Kevin Randall has repeatedly commented here, he and many others
disagree with LC's practice. But it is labelled only as LC practice in
the policy statements; it's not also PCC practice. Some PCC catalogers
follow it and some don't. PCC catalogers are not required to interpret
this part of RDA the same way as LC. But it does mean that copy coming
from LC will be done LC's way, and most of us simply accept those records
without review.
Adam
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Bothmann, Robert L wrote:
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:29:53 +0000
> From: "Bothmann, Robert L" <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Preferred title using "Poems. Selections" question
>
> You are kidding me, right?
>
> By that logic we would do this:
>
> Silverstein, Shel, author
> Poems. Selections
> Falling up / poems and drawings by Shel Silverstein.
>
>
> Clarke, Arthur C., author
> Short stories. Selections
> The sentinel / by Arthur C. Clarke.
>
>
> Articles. Selections
> Practical strategies for cataloging departments / edited by Rebecca L.
> Lubas.
>
>
> [Also, in what universe does ?Poems. Selections? add clarity and/or meet
> FISO??]
>
> Yes, I can see this PS being valid for a work without a collective title,
> but ?Follow the Blackbirds? is the collective title of the book of poems.
>
> But LC really wants to do "<Form>. Selections? for every book of poetry,
> short stories, omnibus editions of novels, conference proceedings, edited
> theme editions of books, and every other collected works compilation with
> a collective title?
>
> Is this PS really being interpreted correctly? Why would we ignore 6.2.2.4
> RDA and its instruction to ?choose as the preferred title the title in the
> original language by which the work has become known? which is the title
> proper, ?Follow the Blackbirds??
>
>
> Bobby
>
>
>
> On 3/31/14, 1:41 PM, "Adam L. Schiff" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> This is LC's policy. The anthology is a compilation of works. It
>> doesn't
>> matter that they haven't been previously published elsewhere. LC policy
>> is to assign a conventional collective title in these situations. See
>> the
>> LC-PCC PS at the alternative for 6.2.2.10.3:
>>
>> LC practice for Alternative: Instead of recording the preferred title
>> for
>> each of the works in the compilation, record a conventional collective
>> title followed by "Selections." Give an authorized access point for the
>> first or predominant work (Policy Statement 25.1) or expression (Policy
>> Statement 26.1).
>>
>> The LC-PCC PS for 25.1 says to disregard the last sentence above for
>> anthologies of poetry.
>>
>> --Adam Schiff
>>
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>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Bothmann, Robert L wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:57:53 +0000
>>> From: "Bothmann, Robert L" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Preferred title using "Poems. Selections" question
>>>
>>> Please see the record for "Follow the Blackbirds" by Gwen Westerman,
>>> LCCN 2012046616 / OCLC ocn826016001
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain why there is a preferred title "Poems. Selections."
>>> ? I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>> While some of the poems in this book have been published in other
>>> places, this is a unique and original work of its own according to the
>>> author (who is also my neighbor and a colleague at my institution).
>>>
>>> I can't find anything in RDA that justifies this. No other work bears
>>> this title.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any light that can be shed.
>>>
>>> Bobby Bothmann
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