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Subject:

Re: Stokowski and percussion instruments

From:

"Don Tait ([log in to unmask])" <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 8 May 2014 12:26:18 -0400

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. As for "except for Bruno Walter" there wasn't much interest in  Mahler 
before World War II, Willem Mengelberg programmed and conducted Mahler  almost 
incessantly before the Nazis forbade him to do so, including with the New  
York Philharmonic between 1922/3 and 1930 and his 1920 Mahler Festival in  
Amsterdam; Frederick Stock conducted Mahler symphonies with the Chicago 
Symphony  as early as the 1906/7 season (Symphony no. 5) and 1930/1 and 1931/2 
(Symphony  no. 7); and so on.
 
  Don Tait
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2014 10:03:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Mahler  was played in the U.S. long before WW2. Recordings began with an
acoustic  "Resurrection" on Polydor. Japanese Columbia had a recording of
the Fourth  in 1929. Ormandy recorded the "Resurrection" for Victor in
Minneapolis in  1935. Walter did both DAS LIED and the Ninth Symphony in
Vienna in the  latter thirties.The Mahler First with Mitropoulos was also
done in  Minneapolis.

DDR


On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Roger Kulp  
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Aside from the very  obvious exception of Bruno Walter,I don't believe
> there was much  interest in Mahler before WWII.The 1940 (?) Dimitri
> Mitropolous Mahler  with the NYPO is the only recording before the postwar
> period I am  aware of.
>
> Roger
>
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2014  07:58:46 -0400
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re:  [ARSCLIST] Stokowski and percussion instruments
> > To:  [log in to unmask]
> >
> > David’s quite right, I  think, that Beecham never recorded (and probably
> never conducted)  Bruckner or Mahler, but in his time not many conductors
> outside of  Germany did (Toscanini never conducted Mahler, whose music he
> hated,  and did only a couple of Bruckner symphonies, once or twice; there
’s
> a  NY Phil recording of the Seventh, missing chunks at change of record).
>  Beecham was a champion of Richard Strauss when Strauss was controversial 
 —
> I think he conducted the British premieres of Salome (censored,  though to
> his horror some of the singers reverted to the original  language; nobody
> else noticed) and maybe Elektra, symphonies by Kurt  Atterberg and of 
course
> he was a great champion of Delius.
>  >
> > I think he did conduct some Stravinsky in the teens or 20s  when Monteux
> (who was supposed to do it) fell ill, but I don’t think  he liked it much,
> and he definitely wasn’t fond of the music of  Schoenberg and Webern. And
> yes, his Wagner was pretty impressive —  rumors are still around that
> there’s a complete Ring from Covent  Garden (the end of Act I and much of
> Act II has been released, and of  course the stunning Hagen’s Watch with
> Ludwig Weber in his prime)  lurking somewhere in the EMI archives or maybe
> the collection of Lord  Harewood.
> >
> > On May 8, 2014, at 12:00 AM, ARSCLIST  automatic digest system <
> [log in to unmask]>  wrote:
> >
> > > From:    Clark Johnsen  <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: Stokowski and  percussion instruments
> > >
> > > What about Wagner?  Beecham left a complete recording of Tristan, much
> of
> >  > Meistersinger, and numerous excerpts that are all done in grand  
style.
> > > According to Wiki he performed all the operas except  Parsifal 
numerous
> > > times and to great  acclaim.
>




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