Very sad to hear that the SACD release, which would be fairly recent, is
not on pitch. Vergogna! It's so easy, and so important to get this right.
No excuse for it, in any era.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> Hi John:
> No need for the R2R tape. I'd like to stay focused on the specific query,
> which will need involvement from our UK listmembers -- FIRST PRESSING of
> the original EMI/HMV LP. Later pressings (from the first re-cuts in the UK)
> seem to be off-pitch. All of the U.S. Angel pressings we've analized are
> on-pitch and NO CD/SACD/LP reissues are on-pitch. The problem seems to have
> occurred at a dubbing point, either in the U.S. or the U.K. We're trying to
> determine when/where the error occurred.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Haley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] research query - seeking first edition UK LP dub
> Interesting investigation. There are lots of other examples of commercial
>> recordings released off-pitch, on LPs and CDs. Always astonishing, like
>> the people responsible for this don't know what a piano is?
>> I believe that Oistrakh recording was also released on Angel R2R tape. I
>> might have that somewhere and will look when I can.
>> I hope you will be able to post the outcome of this investigation.
>> John Haley
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
>> This from a friend ... if you can help please ping me off-list. [what we
>>> are trying to find out is if EMI ever released a correct-pitch version
>>> outside of the U.S.]
>>> D. OISTRAKH / SZELL CLEVELAND BRAHMS CONCERTO:
>>> UK EARLY PRESSING EMI LP DUB NEEDED
>>> A research investigation needs a dub of at least 10 minutes of Side A of
>>> very early UK LP pressing of the David Oistrakh Brahms (violin-only)
>>> Concerto recorded in Cleveland in May 1969 with George Szell and The
>>> Cleveland Orchestra. The project was recorded for EMI by Capitol Records,
>>> and so the US LP release (Angel SFO-36033) is widely available in the US.
>>> What is needed is an early pressing of the UK release, meaning pressed
>>> before 1973 from one of the first three sets of metal parts. A
>>> recently-acquired EMI UK LP pressing with stamper number 4 for Side A and
>>> stamper number 5 for Side B turned out already to have the speed error
>>> (1.5% fast and sharp) that is a problem with every digital release of
>>> recording investigated so far. The dub need not be high-resolution; MP3
>>> should be adequate. Thanks.
>>> -- Tom Fine