It also came on Victor and was redone electrically.
I seem to recall that the parts for Pines of Rome were rental only and when
your packet arrived, a copy of the 78 was packed with it. I don't know if
the later, electrical one arrived in your packet after 1925 or whenever it
was remade. I kinda think the acoustical one was used for a while
afterwards. Maybe someone at the Fleisher Orchestra Music Collection at the
Free Library of Philadekphia would know.
Of couse, this implied that the performing orchestra would have a phonograph
available, and a model with sufficient volume to be heard in the back of
the balcony. This was not a sure thing. Some members of some professional
orchestra boards of the time opposed the whole idea of recording, just as
they did when broadcasting came along- cheapened the merchandise or, in this
case, cheepened it.
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Phonobomb examples? [specifically Respighi]
On 18/06/2014, Williams, Tim wrote:
> For Don and any others curious about whose nightingale recording
> Respighi used for Pines of Rome...
> A couple years ago, we had a library patron who does orchestra program
> notes who also wondered this.
> The short answer is probably Carl Reich in 1910 or 1913.
> Here's what we came up with for the patron:
> In the 1925 Ricordi score for Pini di Roma, Respighi, lists Grammofono
> in the instrumentation and there's a footnote that states "No. R. 1605
> del 'Concert Record Gramophone': Il Canto dell'usignolo."
> The "1605" is incorrect. Page 55 of the score, when the Grammofono is
> actually used, has the correct footnote: "No. R. 6105 del 'Concert
> Record Gramophone: Il canto dell'usignolo."
> That R. 6105 entry in the Italian record catalog is for "VOCI DELLA
> NATURA (Bremen)," dates 1910 and 1913.
> So in the His Master's Voice: The German Catalogue (1898-1929) book,
> there is an entry for "NACHTIGALL-SCHLAG, Besitzer Carl Reich
> (Bremen)" and the recordings were made in May 1910 and May 1913. Those
> dates and location match up with the "VOCI DELLA NATURA (Bremen)"
> entry in the Italian catalog. So I think we can assume that the "Il
> canto del usignolo" recording used by Respighi was the one made by
> Carl Reich and issued in both Germany and Italy (and possibly
> It's also interesting that the percussionist of the orchestra for
> which these liner notes were researched talked about all the different
> formats they've used over the years (phonograph, reel-to-reel,
> computer, etc.) but also said, that if any of them don't work, he's
> prepared to just whistle a nightingale's bird call himself!
That's very interesting. Thanks.
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