LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.0

Help for BIBFRAME Archives


BIBFRAME Archives

BIBFRAME Archives


BIBFRAME@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

BIBFRAME Home

BIBFRAME Home

BIBFRAME  July 2014

BIBFRAME July 2014

Subject:

Re: BibFrame and Linked Data: Identifiers

From:

Stuart Yeates <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:52:36 +1200

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (55 lines)

On 07/10/2014 11:38 AM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>
> Hi Stuart,
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Stuart Yeates <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>     On 07/10/2014 11:15 AM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>
>         Thus:
>             _:bnode1 a bf:Instance ;
>                bf:uri _:bnode2 .
>             _:bnode2 a bf:Identifier ;
>                bf:identifierValue "http://www.example.com/books/__book1
>         <http://www.example.com/books/book1>" .
>
>         The first reads as: "There is a resource without an identifier, an
>         Instance, and it has an identifier that's a URI."
>
>
>     The first should read "There is a resource (which I'm not supplying
>     an global identifier for right here), an Instance, and it has an
>     identifier that's a URI."
>
>     "_:bnode1" is an identifier, it's just a scoped identifier (limited
>     to the current dataset / file). Think of it as like a file:/// or a
>     http://localhost/ URI; very useful for internal processes and
>     processing, but not to be shown in public.
>
>
> Yes, I was careless with the use of "identifier" :)  I did indeed mean
> without a global identifier.
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#section-blank-nodes is clear that
> blank nodes are disjoint from IRIs, and are always locally scoped.  If
> it wasn't an identifier /at all/ you couldn't refer to it in the graph.
>
> However I don't think that changes my point that it's very strange to
> say, as corrected:
>
> Line 1: There is a resource without a global identifier which is an
> Instance.

The implication of using a blank node is not "without a global 
identifier" but "without a global identifier I care to supply here".

There are lots of reasons where graphs are likely to use blank nodes 
rather than global identifiers for many or most of their references to a 
thing.

cheers
stuart

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options


Options

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password


Search Archives

Search Archives


Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe


Archives

September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
July 2011
June 2011

ATOM RSS1 RSS2



LISTSERV.LOC.GOV

CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager