Regarding titles:
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/24/334081491/how-to-name-your-sequel-ii-not-just-roman-numerals-anymore
That caught my ear tonight, as i catalog a lot of films and video games--it nicely describes the patterns of a lot of titles. Typically, catalogers will take a franchise title as a title proper, and the more distinctive title as either a part title or, worse, a subtitle--particularly since many of these titles are represented as Franchise title: other title (the colon being a signal to catalogers--oh look, here comes a subtitle!). But these titles are not subtitles. And the numbers are not part titles. Of course, in credits or other title display, the colon often is not actually present--it shows up in textual descriptions of the resource instead, like in advertising, reviews, accompanying booklets etc.
Under AACR2, we couldn't put a colon in a title, but there doesn't seem to be any RDA or LC-PCC-PC policy against using a colon in a title now. And to confuse matters further, i did find this NAR created under AACR2
Star wars: Clone wars (Television program)
with the mysterious 667: Do not confuse with: Star Wars, the clone wars (Television program)
I've been surprised that there hasn't been more discussion on this list about 6.27.1.9 since it's quite a change from previous policy. It didn't use to matter that much that your title proper for a title main entry resource conflicted with another, but now it does matter.
So, does PCC want to discuss any guidelines on when to include something we would have formerly thought of as a subtitle as part of the title proper and when to just give up and make a 130 with a qualifier? And what might be actually useful as a qualifier? (In some instancesit might be the "subtitle" when the conflicting titles are issued by the same corporate body in the same year--not unusual in government publications).
greta de groat
Stanford University Libraries
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Add my name as another one who agrees completely with Kevin on this.
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In my experience, it seems that serials catalogers typically are much more ready to accept "subtitle-looking" information as an integral part of the title, whereas monographic catalogers seem to be quite reluctant to do so (and I've never been able to figure out why). Thus we end up with so many things like:
245 00 $a Movies : $b 1930-1939
instead of the more logical:
245 00 $a Movies, 1930-1939
(made up example, but *quite* typical, and a big pet peeve of mine...)
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