How do they sound? Do they have the old mic's character or do they sound 
more like condensers?
Shai
בתאריך 30/08/14 11:39 PM, ציטוט Tom Fine:
> Audio-Technica and others make ribbon mics that include on-board a 
> first stage of solid-state amplification plus impedence matching, so 
> the mic interfaces well with modern gear, outputs about like a 
> condenser mic and the ribbon sees the impedence it wants to see. 
> Because modern instrumentation-grade amplifier chips are super-quiet, 
> this also allows for a first gain stage with very little self-noise.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Accidental stereo (again)
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>
>> The new ribbons misc need phantom power for the built it electronics. 
>> The old would actually fry if presented with phantom power.
>> Shai
>> בתאריך 30/08/14 10:58 PM, ציטוט Aaron Levinson:
>>> Ribbon Mics do NOT require phantom power DB I'm not sure where you 
>>> can up with that bit if misinformation but only condensers require a 
>>> 48v phantom supply.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Dave Burnham <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since the stereo ribbon mike required phantom power I assume it 
>>>> included a mike pre-amp in the unit which presented the required 
>>>> termination needs.
>>>>
>>>> db
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Paul Stamler <[log in to unmask]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/30/2014 1:03 PM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
>>>>>> Certainly they're still making ribbon mikes.  But I have compared 
>>>>>> a very high-end stereo ribbon mike with an AKG C422, (the first 
>>>>>> solid state stereo mike that AKG produced when they discontinued 
>>>>>> the C24), both in an MS configuration, and the quality of sound, 
>>>>>> to my ears, from the C422 was vastly superior to the ribbon mike 
>>>>>> and, of course, the C422 isn't limited to just bi-directional 
>>>>>> pick-ups.  I think there are also ribbon mikes which have other 
>>>>>> polar patterns but I don't think they're switchable.
>>>>> It's worth noting that classic ribbon mics (e.g., RCA) were 
>>>>> designed to be fed into a mic preamp with an input transformer 
>>>>> that fed the grid of a triode or pentode tube, *without* a 
>>>>> terminating resistor on the transformer. This means the mic is 
>>>>> presented with a relatively high load impedance, significantly 
>>>>> higher than the 1500-2400 ohm input impedance of modern preamps. 
>>>>> There are a few modern preamps that will work well with classic 
>>>>> tube amps (the AEA device, designed as a companion to their 
>>>>> RCA-inspired designs, and the Benchmark mic preamp introduced 
>>>>> about three years ago. I did an experiment with an old RCA ribbon; 
>>>>> I operated it into a good modern preamp from Grace, and into the 
>>>>> Benchmark. There was no contest; the mic, used through the 
>>>>> Benchmark, had an entire octave of high frequency response that 
>>>>> was missing through the Grace.
>>>>>
>>>>> David's compariaon of a pair of ribbon mics with an AKG stereo 
>>>>> condenser mic may have been skewed, if the ribbon mics were used 
>>>>> with typical modern mic inputs. They weren't built with that 
>>>>> expectation. I'd love to hear the same experiment repeated using 
>>>>> something like a Benchmark preamp on the ribbons.
>>>>>
>>>>> And David, you're quite correct that there are ribbon mics 
>>>>> available with other than figure-8 polar patterns; Beyerdynamic 
>>>>> makes several with hypercardioid patterns. And you're right; 
>>>>> they're not switchable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace,
>>>>> Paul
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers
>> Shai Drori
>> Timeless Recordings
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