Great discussion! To bring this back full circle to why the subject
header, below is the ORIGINAL posting from Lani Spahr on Aug 5. We got
into Blumlein when on the 30th Tom Daly replied that he would think it
was Blumlein, Paul Stambler reminded him he was killed during the war,
and I responded this meant that it was not Blumlenn. Besides, Blumlein
was in R&D, not recording, and Arthur C. Keller was doing stereo before
Blumlein. Let me add at this point that Keller did get a single-groove
patent, which as someone noted would have expired by the 50s. Patents
were not renewable like copyrights were back then, so 45/45 was now P.D.
Keller, by then not working recording but still at Western Electric,
told me that around 1957 he got a phone call from someone at the Westrex
stereo team asking him why he had not told them about his expired patent
-- it meant that all their work would be P.D. "Nobody ASKED me!" he
told me his reply was!
Now for the original posting: Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
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Subject: [ARSCLIST] Accidental stereo (again)
From: Lani Spahr <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, August 05, 2014 12:19 pm
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Hello All - I'm sure you're all familiar with the YouTube clip of Keith
Hardwicke throwing cold water on the "Californian idea" that there were
2 independent cutters working at HMV from which it's possible to create
" Accidental Stereo" ..In case you're not -
My question is, does anyone know the name of the engineer who Keith
refuses to name? He said this man made the very first recordings at
We know that the first recording made was on 11 November 1931. It was
Elgar conducting his Falstaff. The famous official "Opening" in the
Pathe Newsreel was from the next day, 12 November.
The matrix #s for this session have a prefix (indicating the engineer)
of 2B, and in fact all of Elgar's subsequent recordings in Abbey Road
were done by the same engineer, 2B. (see Elgar on Record, JN Moore) I
found a file online
gives prefix #s for almost everyone (pg 4) except 2B.
I know this might open a can of worms but I'd like to know who this was.
In Elgar on Record on there is a picture (facing pg 161) of Edward
"Chick" Fowler at the lathe. In the Pathe clip there is another,
different engineer at the lathe. Fowler had a matrix ID of 0F or 2F, so
it wasn't him.
Thanks in advance