Thanks for this, Mike, I didn't go back that far when I was trying to find the source.
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> On Aug 31, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Great discussion! To bring this back full circle to why the subject
> header, below is the ORIGINAL posting from Lani Spahr on Aug 5. We got
> into Blumlein when on the 30th Tom Daly replied that he would think it
> was Blumlein, Paul Stambler reminded him he was killed during the war,
> and I responded this meant that it was not Blumlenn. Besides, Blumlein
> was in R&D, not recording, and Arthur C. Keller was doing stereo before
> Blumlein. Let me add at this point that Keller did get a single-groove
> patent, which as someone noted would have expired by the 50s. Patents
> were not renewable like copyrights were back then, so 45/45 was now P.D.
> Keller, by then not working recording but still at Western Electric,
> told me that around 1957 he got a phone call from someone at the Westrex
> stereo team asking him why he had not told them about his expired patent
> -- it meant that all their work would be P.D. "Nobody ASKED me!" he
> told me his reply was!
>
> Now for the original posting: Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Accidental stereo (again)
> From: Lani Spahr <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, August 05, 2014 12:19 pm
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Hello All - I'm sure you're all familiar with the YouTube clip of Keith
> Hardwicke throwing cold water on the "Californian idea" that there were
> 2 independent cutters working at HMV from which it's possible to create
> " Accidental Stereo" ..In case you're not -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr4x1V4OJY
>
> My question is, does anyone know the name of the engineer who Keith
> refuses to name? He said this man made the very first recordings at
> Abbey Road.
> We know that the first recording made was on 11 November 1931. It was
> Elgar conducting his Falstaff. The famous official "Opening" in the
> Pathe Newsreel was from the next day, 12 November.
>
> The matrix #s for this session have a prefix (indicating the engineer)
> of 2B, and in fact all of Elgar's subsequent recordings in Abbey Road
> were done by the same engineer, 2B. (see Elgar on Record, JN Moore) I
> found a file online
> http://www.recordingpioneers.com/docs/grurks/SUFFIX-PREFIX.pdf that
> gives prefix #s for almost everyone (pg 4) except 2B.
>
> I know this might open a can of worms but I'd like to know who this was.
> In Elgar on Record on there is a picture (facing pg 161) of Edward
> "Chick" Fowler at the lathe. In the Pathe clip there is another,
> different engineer at the lathe. Fowler had a matrix ID of 0F or 2F, so
> it wasn't him.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Lani Spahr
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