Hello. That incident in Concertgebouw is ancient. It was on 3rd of September 2011 and the guy on stage was not the conductor. He turned up in a smart suite and the organisers thought he was part of the introductory program. Apparently, the concert continued shortly afterwards. http://www.show.nl/showflits/man-verstoort-concert-koningin/
Kind regards from Amsterdam,
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Well said, Mr. Burnham. Which means, I agree! "Inappropriate" indeed.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:48 AM, DAVID BURNHAM <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well I agree that the incident was inappropriate in the extreme, but
> he wasn't promoting hatred, and whether or not what he was saying was
> lies has been discussed for millenia. He was, (in the language of the
> church), confessing his faith, albeit in the wrong place, and
> obviously, once you start mentioning the divinity of Jesus, certain
> non-Christian segments of the population are going to be offended and
> identify his words as lies. I believe the response of the orchestra
> was very dignified and that the authorities were right to remove him
> from the stage in a non-violent way, so they could discuss his motives with him.
> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:01:12 PM, Paul Stamler
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >Let us, please, not get into the Israel-Palestine mess on this list.
> >Please. James mentions slippery slopes -- and already is referring to
> >a musician as "slime".
> >People aren't slime, and the quick descent of the discussion to that
> >level shows how raw the emotions surrounding this issue can be.
> >So, please, LET'S NOT GO THERE. Let the partisans of Likud and Hamas
> >fight it out in some other rhetorical forum.
> >On 7/31/2014 1:21 PM, James Roth wrote:
> >> Well, here is a perfect example of "slippery slope".
> >> The subject IS way-off topic, but when slime tries to use classical
> music to spread its lies and hate, it's fair game for us to mention
> and expose it, AT LEAST!!
> >> Okey, so what WERE we talking about before?
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> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:59 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Conductor ushered out by police in Holland.
> >> I think it might have been fine I he stopped just before he read
> >> that
> passage from the Koran about Jesus.Thanks for sharing this.|||Roger> Date:
> Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:43:47 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject:
> Re: [ARSCLIST] Conductor ushered out by police in Holland.> To:
> [log in to unmask]> > This is WAY off-topic, but having
> watched the video, I'm forced to respond. No, he was not giving HM a
> speech on the beauty of Islam, he was lecturing her and the rest of
> the audience that he was right and they were not. This was rude in the
> extreme, not simply because he was addressing a queen, but because he
> was attempting to instill his way over all others. Most of us learned not to do this in kindergarten.
> He must have missed that day.> > I am not anti-Islam, but I would
> refuse to tolerate this fool, any Jehovah's Witnesses, or indeed
> anyone else to tell me that their way was the only right way. I think
> he was treated extraordinarily well and politely by the!
> > police.
> >He didn't deserve such treatment.> > -Larry> > > > >
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> [ARSCLIST] Conductor ushered out by police in Holland.> > HM Queen
> Beatrix was present and the guest conductor, a Muslim man, was giving
> her a speech from the podium on the beauty of Islam, when...> > Well
> see for yourself:> > http://safeshare.tv/w/cqjiYhtiXs> > > --->
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