and don't forget that, with less songs on the LPs, less $$ needs to be paid
for royalties. Am I correct on that?

Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] hardcore collector object fetishism - Beatles in
Mono LP set


> Given the size of the U.S. market, I'll stick to my bet. If someone can
> come up with real-deal EMI sales figures showing I'm wrong, dinner is on
> me. This only applies to the pre-"Sgt. Pepper" albums, of course. From
> "Sgt. Pepper" onward, the sequences were the same _for albums released in
> both US and UK markets_. Note the caveat. "Magical Mystery Tour" and "Hey
> Jude" were US-only albums.
>
> Aside from the many internal EMI vs Capitol dynamics, I'm sure a big
> reason the Official albums and sequences in the CD era have always been
> original UK is that the albums were longer in length (more songs) and thus
> CD buyers (especially in non-US markets) wouldn't complain about being
> ripped off. Capitol could put out 30-minute and shorter LPs up until "Sgt.
> Pepper" for two main reasons: 1) insatiable Beatlemania in the US market
> and, 2) much lower relative cost of LP records to US consumers, both in
> currency equivilences and especially in price vs. income measures. UK
> records, LPs, had a much higher cost to UK consumers, so 40+ minute albums
> were the norm. For that price, quieter vinyl tended to be used (also lower
> average levels to fit the times on the sides). We all know how good
> quality many EMI LPs were in the 60s, and how bad quality many US pop
> records were in the 60s. By quality I mean vinyl flatness and quietness,
> pressing quality, graphics sharpness and sleeve paper quality, etc.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Urbahns" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] hardcore collector object fetishism - Beatles in
> Mono LP set
>
>
>> Tom Fine wrote:
>>
>>> I'll bet....that if someone tracked down real-deal EMI sales figured,
>>> the
>>> US Capitol albums were what sold the most copies, and therefore by that
>>> measure they are the "official" sequences and titles.
>>
>>
>> That maybe true in the US but worldwide it was the EMI UK versions that
>> were issued. I liked the sequencing of the US albums better (except for
>> Please Please Me, a personal favorite of mine since I grew up with the
>> Vee
>> Jay version). The US releases included singles and EPs left off the
>> British albums. British albums did not include the hits because they felt
>> nobody wanted to buy the same material twice. That's why the Past Masters
>> was compiled.
>>
>> Can you imagine listening to Meet The Beatles (in UK known as With The
>> Beatles) without I Want To Hold Your Hand?
>> The Meet The Beatles track lineup is far superior. IMO.
>>
>>