Tim's the man! He sold me a beautifully restored Edison player, which has a prominent place in my
living room. Next time I get some pennies from heaven, he'll sell me a wood-horn Victor player.
See what Tim says about this issue. Maybe he's got some way to play VINYL 78's. You could get a 78
cut, for instance by Charles Bork, from your tape or digital file. Then get one of the small-run
presses to make you 100 or so copies. Then, you'll long have extras for when they wear out. Tim
might have a solution (maybe a cactus needle?) to play vinyl. I think 200-gram vinyl would be thick
enough not to slip, but you could also craft a rubber platter mat to deal with that issue.
Thinking about how this could come across in performance, I don't consider it even semi-ridiculous
anymore. I think it's kewl. More power to you and your band.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Grimes" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] shellac 78 problem
> Thanks Tom; This is all very helpful. There's a fellow out of Minneapolis, Kim Gutzke of Custom
> Records, who talked of trying to do the shellac, but years have gone by and nothing has come to
> pass, so i've lost hope in that possibility. When we first began this effort to work with the
> Victor, it was under the assumption that this possibility would eventually work out. now we are
> stuck with the very likely prospect of faking it, which I always hate. It's hard to believe
> that nobody out there does this. I guess there's just no a void to be filled anymore?
> Thanks again for your input.
> p.s. Tim sold us our Victor IV, as well as an Edison wax cylinder player/recorder. He has been
> very helpful with so many things.
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>> Hi Richard:
>> This query comes across as semi-ridiculous, but you can fudge things. No, you can't get shellac
>> disks pressed today and no, you can't play laquer disks, either wide-groove or not, on a Victor
>> IV. But, you could easily rig up a system onstage where an iPod plays into a little speaker
>> hidden in the throat of the horn. Buy some terrible junk 78 record (because it will be
>> destroyed). Get someone like Tim Fabrizio to send you a junker Victor diaphram, disconnected
>> from the needle. This will then put no sound into the horn to interfere with the speaker sound.
>> Drop the needle on the record and at the same time hit play on the iPod and the audience will
>> be none the wiser.
>> In case, for your recording, you want a real 78RPM wide-groove record, there's a guy named
>> Charles Bork out in Seattle who can cut it for you. This can then be plated and pressed as a 10"
>> vinyl record, playable with a 78 stylus but not playable on an old Victor turntable (it will be
>> chewn to bits on its first play).
>> -- Tom Fine
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Grimes" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:57 PM
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] shellac 78 problem
>>> Greetings ARSC!
>>> I am new to the list, so I hope I am corresponding with you all in the proper manner with this
>>> email. If not, just let me know and I will redress accordingly.
>>> I am the Artistic Director of an eclectic contemporary group called cordis - and I am in a
>>> pickle - hoping you or one of your members might be able to assist, or at least point me in a
>>> direction. I very recently aquired a Victor IV talking machine, with the foolish assumed
>>> there would some boutique sources out there that would be able to press shellac discs. My
>>> research has indicated otherwise, and I am now in a bit of a panic as the ensemble is knee
>>> deep in the recording of a new album that is dependent upon the use of our trusty
>>> Victor. We can always fake it in the studio, but live, we cannot.
>>> Do you know of any sources who might be able to assist us here? i am a neophyte when it comes
>>> to understanding this early technology, so please forgive me if my query comes across as
>>> ridiculous. any direction you might be able to offer is greatly appreciated.