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Re: Sound recordings cataloging software

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Peter Hirsch <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:47:27 -0500

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Totally for my own use. I can more or less find most things using memory
and the fact that everything is shelved in record store order but there are
limits. Plus, it would be nice if my wife could locate something without
having to ask me to pull it off the shelf for her.

Peter

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is this primarily for private use or institutional purpose?
>
> Steve Smolian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maurice Mengel
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:59 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound recordings cataloging software
>
> Peter,
>
> why reinvent the wheel? There are actually quite a few tools that import
> MARC and some of them may accommodate the level of complexity that you are
> looking for. There should be open source cataloging tools for libraries,
> but
> I don't know any in particular. Definitely worth a look.
>
> You could also check, for example, open source repository softwares, such
> as
> those managed by DuraSpace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuraSpace).
> They are made not ONLY for cataloging, but they also catalog and they
> should
> import MARC as well as other stuff.
>
> maurice
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Carla Arton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Since you are interested in MARC, be aware that any investment you
> > make now in a database that is MARC based may need additional
> > investment if/when BibFrame is implemented as a replacement for MARC.
> >
> > http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/
> >
> > See the AV Modeling Study
> > <http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/pdf/bibframe-avmodelingstudy-may15-2014.p
> > df> released this past year. It explores the relationships you mention
> > between varying performers and performances on one album. You can also
> > play with filling in fields they have proposed in their testbed editor
> > <http://bibframe.org/tools/editor/>.
> >
> > There are other options as well, such as PBCore <http://pbcore.org/>.
> > They just held a How-to <http://vimeo.com/109940772> webinar about a
> > month ago which is available online.
> >
> > You may also consider contacting the ARSC Cataloging Committee
> > <http://www.arsc-audio.org/committees/cataloging-committee.html>.
> >
> > Best, Carla Arton
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Tom Fine
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > See if you can make contact with the guy who writes Tag&Rename. He's
> > > figured out how to hook into several sources including Amazon and
> > AllMusic
> > > to find tag information for music files. He might be able to port
> > > over
> > what
> > > he's done to fill in a catalog or database instead of writing tags
> > > into FLAC, WAV and MP3 files. If he can grab info out of Amazon and
> > > AllMusic,
> > I
> > > don't think it would be a huge challenge for him to grab info out of
> > MARC.
> > >
> > > If you want the database to fill faster, see if he can hook into a
> > barcode
> > > lookup system and use a barcode scanner on your CDs.
> > >
> > > -- Tom Fine
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loftus Becker" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound recordings cataloging software
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >>
> > >> You might want to ask some database developers how much it would
> > >> cost to develop a custom database that would do the job you want.
> > >> It shouldn't
> > be
> > >> terribly hard - I just looked up MARC record (I've never used them)
> > >> and though they're a little complicated they do seem to be pretty
> > >> well described. Probably the cost would be more than you want to
> > >> pay . but
> > you
> > >> might find enough other people interested that a group of you could
> > >> get together. As I understand your needs you definitely want a
> "relational"
> > >> database but those are available for Windows, Mac, and (I'm sure)
> > >> for
> > Linux.
> > >>
> > >> I do a lot of custom database programming for myself - quick and
> > >> dirty things to get the job done (I teach law). My rough guess is
> > >> that it
> > would
> > >> take me a day or so to get a functional, not pretty, version
> > >> working,
> > and
> > >> I'm not nearly as good as a professional would be. Moving from
> > "functional"
> > >> to "pretty" and "elegant" involves a lot of work.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know of anything available off the shelf. I'll be following
> > >> this thread to see if there is something.
> > >>
> > >> -Lofty
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Peter Hirsch <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I think the area of software for cataloging a personal library of
> > >>> recordings has had some discussion on the list but I don't recall
> > >>> that
> > it
> > >>> has come up recently and my recollection is that most of the
> > >>> programs
> > put
> > >>> forward did not readily allow for linking up specific performers
> > >>> with
> > the
> > >>> particular work they performed if there were multiple pieces with
> > varying
> > >>> artist groupings on a recording.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am interested in software that can download full MARC records
> > >>> and not the sort of program that uses crowdsourced info like
> > >>> GraceNote and cddb to populate its records. I realize that even a
> > >>> MARC record has its limitations as far as what I want to
> > >>> accomplish is concerned but it is far better than the other system
> > >>> which tends to produce sketchy records at best and are more
> > >>> involved with assigning genres than creating meaningful access
> > >>> points.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there such a product as the one I am seeking available at a
> > reasonable
> > >>> price (up to a few hundred $) out there?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have no exact count on the number of recordings that would need
> > >>> to be cataloged, but I figure roughly 10-15K, so I don't think
> > >>> creating a database from scratch without downloading records is a
> > >>> practical reality. I have some professional experience as a
> > >>> cataloger, though very little at all in the area of sound
> > >>> recordings, so I don't mind a system that gets a
> > bit
> > >>> technical (within reasonable bounds).
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter Hirsch
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>

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