Rebecca-
Do you know which specific Elma machine they purchased to clean discs in Canberra?
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> On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Rebecca Feynberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I visited the National Film and Sound Archive in Canberra, Australia this
> summer. They use an ultrasonic disc cleaner. It is quite mesmerizing to
> watch the mold and residue lift from the grooves into the water dissolving
> into a cloud.
>
> Here is a link to the company the makes the sonic disc cleaners. They are
> not made specifically for discs but the cleaning process works well for
> them. Elma is the company that makes the machines.
>
> http://www.elma-ultrasonic.com/en/products/ultrasonic-units.html
>
> They use a solvent in the water, called Cetrimide.
>
> I have heard that with the Monks machine some buildup may look like it is
> cleared but can reappear in time. The sonic disc cleaner does a fine job of
> permanently removing the buildup.
>
> Regards,
> Rebecca
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:51 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used the current generation of ultrasonic record cleaners for
>> professional or home use? Very pricey in the $4500+ range.
>>
>> Eric Nagamine
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Dennis Rooney" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] VINYL AND STYLUS AT 1000X MAGNIFICATION
>> Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2014 9:17 AM
>>
>>
>> I note in this thread that no one has mentioned the device that cleans
>> discs better than any other, viz. the Keith Monks machine. Forty years of
>> use on vinyl, lacquers and shellac confirms it.
>>
>> DDR
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have looked with an optical microscope at records before and after VPI
>>> cleaning. Chunky dust as shown in those photographs can be greatly
>> reduced
>>> by wet-brush cleaning and vacuum-drying as is done by the VPI and several
>>> other brand machines. I also looked at records cleaned with DiscWasher
>>> (original brush and fluid) and the new velvet brush and fluid sold under
>>> the "stanton" brand. Both left clumps of dust, wherever the brush was
>>> rolled backward and taken off the record. I also looked at a record
>> cleaned
>>> with Sleeve City's spray-on fluid and their "shammy" type cloth. Not only
>>> was dust left, there were visible small scratches caused by the cloth. My
>>> conclusion was, I only want to use the VPI machine.
>>>
>>> Also, regarding syluses, I'm a big believer in that relatively new
>>> Japanese thing that's basically a blob of tacky gel. You lower the stylus
>>> onto the gel blob and let it sit a few seconds, then use the lifter arm
>> to
>>> take it up. Dust on the stylus stays on the block of gel. The gel is
>>> water-washable and I recommend washing it regularly. Stylus dry-brushes
>> of
>>> the type that come included with some cartridges work OK but don't
>> dislodge
>>> all dust. I still have some old LAST fluid and brush from the 80s and it
>>> does a nice job of cleaning crud off the stylus and cantilever. I use
>> that
>>> after every couple dozen sides.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VINYL AND STYLUS AT 1000X MAGNIFICATION
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor Campos wrote an article, "Gunk in the Grooves," that was in an
>>>> American Record Guide in the 1960s. He published a group of photographs
>>>> with it that were groove close-ups of great quality (on coated paper),
>>>> showed all kinds of dirt problems and discussed their solutions (if
>> that's
>>>> the proper word.) This is well before Disc Doctor came to the rescue, of
>>>> course.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Smolian
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Don Cox
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:22 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VINYL AND STYLUS AT 1000X MAGNIFICATION
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2014, Carl Pultz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pretty neat images. Makes it that much more amazing that records work
>>>>> at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dangerousminds.net/comments/vinyl_and_stylus_at_1000x_magnifica
>>>>> tion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure about the first two, but the third picture is a scanning
>>>> electron
>>>> microscope image that has been around for decades.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly worth pointing out for those who haven't seen them.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>> Regards
>>>> --
>>>> Don Cox
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>
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