Yes, I would only record dates in 373 when you know the start and/or
ending date(s). Otherwise, leave it for someone else to come along later
with more exact information to put the data in.
On Sat, 7 Feb 2015, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 00:23:02 +0000
> From: Benjamin A Abrahamse <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Re: Question regarding use of $s in 37x fields
> We do this as well, for example, when establishing names based on dissertations we will add $t under the assumption that earning the PhD signifies the end of that person's association with the Institute (though such is certainly not always the case).
> But in the case I'm asking about I don't really know if 1984 or 2014 are beginnings or endings, or just points in a range.
> So it seems that in these cases it would be most prudent just not to record the inferred date in the 37x at all? Unless, as John Marr suggests, a new MARC subfield should be established for the purpose (which seems unlikely to me, at this juncture).
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> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Question regarding use of $s in 37x fields
> In authorities that I create, I have been giving just the $s or $t if that
> is all that I know. I think a start date without a termination date is
> still more information than nothing at all. It doesn't concern me that
> the 373s might only each have a start date. I think more commonly I've
> had a termination date for one affiliation, and the start date for the
> next. That's also informative to record I think. E.g. (made up example):
> 373 University of Wyoming $t 2009 $2 naf
> 373 University of Oregon $s 2009 $2 naf
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 21:52:20 +0000
>> From: Benjamin A Abrahamse <[log in to unmask]>
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>> Subject: Question regarding use of $s in 37x fields
>> In MARC authorities fields 370 (Associated place) and 373 (Associated group), as well as several of the other 37x fields, we have subfields defined to record dates of association--$s for beginning dates, and $t for end dates. But quite frequently I find that the information available to me does not tell me when exactly a given association began (or ended) but simply that it existed at a certain date.
>> For example, I'm looking at an NAR for a fellow who, according to an older 670, was working for the Dutch firm Philips, in 1984 when he appeared on a proceedings t.p.; more recently he edited another work and I see from his by-line that he is now at Technische Universita?t Clausthal.
>> In these cases is it preferable just to omit dates from the 37x, or to use $s to record the only known date? (Which I admit is perhaps stretching the MARC definition a bit.)
>> 373 xx $a Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken $a Technische Universita?t Clausthal $2 naf
>> 373 xx $a Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken $s 1984 $2 naf
>> 373 xx $a Technische Universita?t Clausthal $s 2014 $2 naf
>> I suppose a third option might be: 373 xx $a Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken $s circa 1984 $2 naf
>> All of this information can, of course, be gleaned from existing 670s, so it's not like it's absolutely necessary to include in the 373; still, I was under the impression these new information fields were seen as useful for future linked data, etc., so it is useful to include a date range (or "date point") if possible.
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