So let's propose an additional subfield for "other known date" when specific starts and ends are uncertain-- kind of like a "fl." date, which is certainly useful info.
John G. Marr
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87010
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Question regarding use of $s in 37x fields
In authorities that I create, I have been giving just the $s or $t if that is all that I know. I think a start date without a termination date is still more information than nothing at all. It doesn't concern me that the 373s might only each have a start date. I think more commonly I've had a termination date for one affiliation, and the start date for the next. That's also informative to record I think. E.g. (made up example):
373 University of Wyoming $t 2009 $2 naf
373 University of Oregon $s 2009 $2 naf
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 21:52:20 +0000
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> Subject: Question regarding use of $s in 37x fields
> In MARC authorities fields 370 (Associated place) and 373 (Associated group), as well as several of the other 37x fields, we have subfields defined to record dates of association--$s for beginning dates, and $t for end dates. But quite frequently I find that the information available to me does not tell me when exactly a given association began (or ended) but simply that it existed at a certain date.
> For example, I'm looking at an NAR for a fellow who, according to an older 670, was working for the Dutch firm Philips, in 1984 when he appeared on a proceedings t.p.; more recently he edited another work and I see from his by-line that he is now at Technische Universita?t Clausthal.
> In these cases is it preferable just to omit dates from the 37x, or to
> use $s to record the only known date? (Which I admit is perhaps
> stretching the MARC definition a bit.)
> 373 xx $a Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken $a Technische Universita?t
> Clausthal $2 naf
> 373 xx $a Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken $s 1984 $2 naf
> 373 xx $a Technische Universita?t Clausthal $s 2014 $2 naf
> I suppose a third option might be: 373 xx $a Philips'
> Gloeilampenfabrieken $s circa 1984 $2 naf
> All of this information can, of course, be gleaned from existing 670s, so it's not like it's absolutely necessary to include in the 373; still, I was under the impression these new information fields were seen as useful for future linked data, etc., so it is useful to include a date range (or "date point") if possible.
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