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Re: early Columbia LP packaging ???

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Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:17:38 -0700

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You still have not described what the two of you -- and apparently only
the two of you -- mean.  I have given a series of four different album
constructions Columbia used which all might fit your term, but
apparently you have made your own definition but are keeping it a secret
code.  Which description is it?

Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]   

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ???
From: Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, April 26, 2015 1:42 pm
To: [log in to unmask]

Les Gerber and I have been calling these long boxes since before CDs- in
lists and conversation.

Steve Smolian

-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Biel
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:36 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ???

What do you mean by "long box" since that is a CD term. Do you mean a
"dowel box"? Those are the boxes with pockets for the discs held with a
wood dowel which makes the box rectangular the size of a 78 book album. 
Or instead of the dowel a regular book binding with box edges on the
front cover instead of an open edge. these are different from a slip
case box which are square if the the records are individual. They could
also be rectangular if the records are bound together in something that
slides out as a unit. Columbia used all of these configurations.


Mike Biel [log in to unmask] 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ???
From: Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, April 26, 2015 6:29 am
To: [log in to unmask]

Hi, Thomas,

Apparently you didn't see this:

My copy of the Schneider is in a long box.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Smolian
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ???

As I recall, the Scheider set came as a set with a tape hinge- binding,
not audiotape, also in a long box. Dunno if it was sold as singles as
well, but wouldn't be surprised.

Steve Smolian


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Stern
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [ARSCLIST] early Columbia LP packaging ???

A while ago, I inquired about the Bruno Walter NY Philharmonic Beethoven
9th Symphony reissue from 78's (M900) as SL056/SL156, then later issued
with newly recorded 4th movement SL186.

I've also been looking at the Kirkpatrick/Schneider Mozart Sonatas

set from MM-650, reissued in set SL 152 ML 4169/4170.



Packaging questions:



The 2 LP's in each of SL152, SL056 and SL156 each appear to be issued in
conventional LP jackets as Vol.1 and Vol.2. Were these albums also
included in a SLIPCASE or BOX ?????? None that I've seen on the internet
appear in that form - only as separate LP's.



Were they SOLD as individual items ?? Seems strange that someone would
buy an incomplete recording.



I can't locate an image of the album cover for the Beethoven 78's, but I
thought I'd seen it, being the same as the LP sets.



The manual set SL-056 has blue background, the 78 and auto sequence SL
156
is green.



The reissue of this set with the alternate Choral 4th mvt. SL 186 has
the same green background and artwork as the original, EVEN listing the
singers from the original, BUT with text "WITH NEWLY RECORDED FINALE".
The inside of the box lists the new singers. Also, the additional work
on 056/156 is Brahms Song of Destiny, on 186 Beethoven's 8th symphony.



Does anyone have a version of 186 which lists the correct singers on the
box cover ????

THANKS!!!

Best wishes, Thomas.

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